jOHNkSOY

My dads friend has a MY12 civic that wants to lift it due to road conditions. I've done a quick search and seen few people do it on older civics but there was welding and fabrication involved. Is there anything that is easier, bolt on, to lift the civic? I'm definitely thinking taller sidewall snowtires but I don't think thats enough. If only I can get a universal strut spacer or something like that.

10psiLsEf2

Air bags

jOHNkSOY

Haven't thought about that. I gotta look into it. Anyone who've done airbags know how much lift you'll get with them? I've did a quick search and read something like you can't drive the car with it adjusted to max height.

doood

iTrader: (1)

road conditions? is he rock crawling or something? stock civics are already pretty high. maybe he should consider a truck or something?

jOHNkSOY

I only had a brief conversation with my dad so I don't know what the exact problem is but the civic seems to be scraping alot maybe because of the snow setting recently and dips, other imperfections on the road. Yeah so I gotta ask what exactly is going on but what I do know is that the civic needs more ground clearance. So anything custom/offroad stuff is overkill although I think custom work is the only way because I'm running out of ideas.

DaveSi677

just as an FYI he will void warranty if any custom work is done...

vladd

No he won't. You spread a lot of misinformation.

integra15

Taller tires will help. I wouldn't do anything to the suspension

Pothole987

He will void the warrenty of what ever he modifies on the car.

If it's scraping a lot there's a plastic air damn ( it's about 2" wide) under the bumper and that's problaly all that's scraping.

To raise it though will require a lot of work, you got to think about the cv joints, brake lines, wider stance to help with the body roll, and much more. Cheaper to buy a small truck.

DaveSi677

Are you kidding me? If you put an air suspension on your car you aren't voiding the warranty or if you flash your ecu with hondata that is neither voiding the warranty...

I don't spread misinformation... certainly not when it comes to this specifically as I had to deal with the dealership not wanting to cover my rack and pinion because I was running on a modified suspension.

m_shake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuso...s_Warranty_Act

vladd

Not kidding you at all. Lowering your Civic won't void the warranty on the motor, for example.

You do spread a ton of misinformation. If you don't know what you're talking about, shut yer hole.

m_shake

Technically his is right, he just didn't go into detail, lower/raise your cars height and they have reason to void everything from the axles to wheel bearings to the rack and pinion. Now obviously they can't void engine components, electrical, or interior items if you have just suspension mods. But they can't legally just straight deny your claim, need enough evidence to prove it was what caused the issue before that. We've had cars come in with quite a few bolt on's and suspension mods and have warrantied say a tranny with no ***** given.

And as always the biggest factor is your dealer, some are cool some are worse then a swift kick to the nuts. Example, a friend of mine had a shifting issue in his sti, said if shifting around 5000rpm it'll grind and sometimes pop out of gear. The second the service advisor heard 5000 rpm he flipped out, "why are revving it so high, your abusing the vehicle etc." -_-

Caddiman

iTrader: (2)

Warranty will be voided in certain aspects if lowered as stated above. Heard it straight from the Honda dealer when I was thinking of purchasing an SI a few years ago.

"Spits coffee on moniter"

vladd

He said void the warranty, period.

Pothole987

Haha someone doesn't like being wrong. This kind of reminds me of the 2010 bumper swap thread again.

vladd

Is English a second language for you by any chance? You seem to have trouble understanding pretty basic statements. There's a big difference between the following two statements:

1. Modifying your suspension voids the warranty.
2. Modifying your suspension could potentially void the warranty on suspension parts.

The difference between 1 and 2? With 2, you're still covered if your engine has issues, or your interior falls apart (not from normal wear), tranny starts popping out of a gear, etc. With 1, any issues your car will have will be paid for out of pocket, period.

Pothole987

Yes Dave didn't say the full thing about the warrenty I'm sure it was a slip up on his part sometimes people don't go over his posts but most of us are human and do make errors.

And seeming to not understand basic statements? I understand everything perfectly you are the one who keeps mentioning period, come back when yours is over.

vladd

So you don't know what you're talking about either. Got it.

jOHNkSOY

okay i talked with my dad. I don't know whats really getting scraped but he said his friend wants the car to be stock tacoma ride height. who do I call to get a rough ball park estimate for this kinda job?

NZXTInerTia

By not buying a damn civic. Seriously, I could imagine lifting something like my Lancer OZ Rally, or even a Subaru. But NEVER a Civic, sell it and buy something more his style. Its really not worth it.

Freemananana

iTrader: (3)

Raise the car the same way they raise baja bugs. Bigger fender flares, larger wheels. Do not go with larger shocks/suspension. That is a bad idea. It's not good for the car. If you want to do a body lift, go for it. But the real height increase comes from larger wheels since you still have the drive train and axles to worry about.

DaveSi677

It's funny how most people understood what I was getting at except you... I guess logic and being respectful was never something you were great at so maybe you should shut it a little till you are capable of having an intelligent discussion!

If you have something to add to my comment do not ruin someone else's thread and pm me instead.

Pothole987

Haha you are really one to talk...

One good example, swapping a 2010 bumper to a 2007 civic. I done the swap, you didnt, I say you need inner fenders , you say no way I rebuilt a bunch of model cars I know what I'm talking about . I show proof and you disappear. Here's proof since you do ALL THIS RESEARCH AND I HAVE YET SEEN YOU POST A PICTURE OF YOUR CAR.

Needless to say yes you will void your warrenty if custom work done to your car ruins parts for example your suspension. I'd say save the hassles and buy a SUV or a truck.

vladd

What exactly are you babbling on about? Something about model cars? It's not my fault you screwed up and wasted money on unnecessary parts. Your money, not mine, so I'm not too broken up about it. You're clearly no professional photographer, because I have no idea what you're trying to show in your pic.

Once again, lifting the car will not void the warranty.

So you're saying that you just post nonsense and hope that people "understand what you're getting at"? Speaking of shutting it, how about you shut it until you have a clue on what you're talking about. I've seen you post a bunch of BS; I simply don't have the time nor desire to correct you every single time you have no idea what you're talking about.