Burning engine oil and no leaks!!
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Burning engine oil and no leaks!!
Well, my check engine oil light came on yesterday so I took my 06 Si to the dealer. The engine had very little oil, I mean almost empty. They checked for the leaks and didn't find any. By the way, I have Injen CAI. So what they are saying is that the hose that connects breather on top of the valve cover to the intake is sucking out oil. They told me to put breather only on top of the valve cover and I plug a cover on the intake. Does this make sense to you guys for intake to suck out engine oil? I need help bad!!!
The green circle is where I put the breather on now. Before it was connected to the intake with hose.
And I covered the hole with a plug.
The green circle is where I put the breather on now. Before it was connected to the intake with hose.
And I covered the hole with a plug.
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Yes I do check my engine oil. And I do my own oil change so I know it's full.
After I do oil change, about a week later, I check and it shows low. At least not full. That's why I took it to the dealer to check for any leaks but apparently there wasnt any leak. And the dealer saying that it's the intake that's sucking out the oil. I still don't understand since no one is having this problem other than me.
After I do oil change, about a week later, I check and it shows low. At least not full. That's why I took it to the dealer to check for any leaks but apparently there wasnt any leak. And the dealer saying that it's the intake that's sucking out the oil. I still don't understand since no one is having this problem other than me.
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Re: (edrhee83)
i've had an AEM CAI in for almost a year and i've changed my oil lots of times i have no problems wit my oil level. theres got 2 be more to it.
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Yes that's my point!! Intake shouldn't burn out all the engine oil after driving for 1000 miles hardly!! I am so freakn lost....I hope this isnt a lemon!!
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (Rahxephon)
Nothing in the instructions mentions a oil line being removed i have the injen sri putting the cai is similar and as easy instruction wize its not his problem.
Do you vtec alot that could be burning up more oil then normal or you have a small leak use your warrenty !
Do you vtec alot that could be burning up more oil then normal or you have a small leak use your warrenty !
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (WILD_WILL)
I vtec many times a day. But would that burn so much oil?? I understand going down to maybe 2 quarts left or less..but almost empty?
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (WILD_WILL)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WILD_WILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am sorry dude your dealer should not stop until they figure this out i hope someone can help you !</TD></TR></TABLE>
If I was the dealer I'd tell him to put it ALL back to stock and check his oil every 500 miles (as well as his ECU/rev records).
If I was the dealer I'd tell him to put it ALL back to stock and check his oil every 500 miles (as well as his ECU/rev records).
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (zygspeed)
First, how many miles are on the car? Is it brand new? The K20 is known to lose oil in the first 1k of engine break in. I had to put a Qt in mine when I first got mine
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (Caveman74)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First, how many miles are on the car? Is it brand new? The K20 is known to lose oil in the first 1k of engine break in. I had to put a Qt in mine when I first got mine</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn..i need to get extra bottles in my trunk just in case..and i just hit 1000 miles.. thanks
damn..i need to get extra bottles in my trunk just in case..and i just hit 1000 miles.. thanks
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (edrhee83)
if you know for a fact that its not leaking, do a compression test. oil might be coming out of your exhaust. maybe your rings are shot or didnt seat properly. check if your back bumper is dirtier than normal. also, does it smell like burning oil everytime u hit vtec? good luck
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (edrhee83)
If you were running that much oil through the intake I think you would, at a minimum, be blowing some smoke out your exhaust.
Another thing you could check is the air filter. I would think if you were sucking oil through the CAI, it would leak down and saturate the air filter to some extent.
I also think it would be difficult to pull that much oil out your value cover (not sure about since I once blew 7 quarts out of a racing VW bug motor in about 3 secs, through a value cover)
I have been running a AEM CAI (full, like yours) for several month. I notice I do use a little oil, but not much. I lose maybe 1/4 quart every 2,000 miles.
In my opinion, it is possible the dealer suspects this because they do not know what is causing the oil lose. If I recall, there was a service advisory regarding bad main seals on some civics.
Keep close tabs on your performance and your oil level, look for leaks around the pan. Check your air filter and if possible, disconnect the CAI at the elbow near the intake manifold and check for oil on the inside walls of the CAI pipe. That is above the hose so if oil is being sucked through, you should feel it in there.
Just a few suggestions. Good luck.
Another thing you could check is the air filter. I would think if you were sucking oil through the CAI, it would leak down and saturate the air filter to some extent.
I also think it would be difficult to pull that much oil out your value cover (not sure about since I once blew 7 quarts out of a racing VW bug motor in about 3 secs, through a value cover)
I have been running a AEM CAI (full, like yours) for several month. I notice I do use a little oil, but not much. I lose maybe 1/4 quart every 2,000 miles.
In my opinion, it is possible the dealer suspects this because they do not know what is causing the oil lose. If I recall, there was a service advisory regarding bad main seals on some civics.
Keep close tabs on your performance and your oil level, look for leaks around the pan. Check your air filter and if possible, disconnect the CAI at the elbow near the intake manifold and check for oil on the inside walls of the CAI pipe. That is above the hose so if oil is being sucked through, you should feel it in there.
Just a few suggestions. Good luck.
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (edrhee83)
Pull off the intake and look inside the throttle body. If your intake is pulling in that much oil, the inside of the throttle body and the throttle plate should be covered with oil. If they're not, take the car back to the service guys and tell them this.
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (WILD_WILL)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WILD_WILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am sorry dude your dealer should not stop until they figure this out i hope someone can help you !</TD></TR></TABLE>
Someone who does there own oil changes and has a intake with the breather on wrong comes into the dealer with no oil in the motor. I'm sorry, but to the dealer that is a claim that is begging to be denied.
Someone who does there own oil changes and has a intake with the breather on wrong comes into the dealer with no oil in the motor. I'm sorry, but to the dealer that is a claim that is begging to be denied.
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (nsxmatt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Someone who does there (sic) own oil changes and has a intake with the breather on wrong comes into the dealer with no oil in the motor. I'm sorry, but to the dealer that is a claim that is begging to be denied. </TD></TR></TABLE>
While I agree with you completely, it does suck for him and nothing is going to be gained by us rubbing in his mistake.
Jon
Someone who does there (sic) own oil changes and has a intake with the breather on wrong comes into the dealer with no oil in the motor. I'm sorry, but to the dealer that is a claim that is begging to be denied. </TD></TR></TABLE>
While I agree with you completely, it does suck for him and nothing is going to be gained by us rubbing in his mistake.
Jon
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (edrhee83)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by edrhee83 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am gonna check my intake for oil. And might as well put the stock intake system back. We'll see.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The line in bold is FRAUD if you are trying to pass it off at another dealership like you never modded. If you want to mod, pay to play, don't make us suffer a more restrictive warranty because you made a mistake in installation or picked a POS intake.
Jon
PS: I had to deal with this with my Subaru and SOA, God forbid Honda turns into that.
The line in bold is FRAUD if you are trying to pass it off at another dealership like you never modded. If you want to mod, pay to play, don't make us suffer a more restrictive warranty because you made a mistake in installation or picked a POS intake.
Jon
PS: I had to deal with this with my Subaru and SOA, God forbid Honda turns into that.
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Re: Burning engine oil and no leaks!! (HondaF1Fanatic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While I agree with you completely, it does suck for him and nothing is going to be gained by us rubbing in his mistake.
Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wasn't rubbing in his mistake, I was replying to the person questioning the way the dealership took care of him and what direction he would take with the dealership if it was a warranty issue.
Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wasn't rubbing in his mistake, I was replying to the person questioning the way the dealership took care of him and what direction he would take with the dealership if it was a warranty issue.
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I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM i check it daily just because i know that i race the car alot, if u pop the v-tec alot expect to burn oil faster. i use 5w-30 royal purple and it burns like nobodys business, thats the reason i keep 2 quarts in the trunk just in case. i recommend it
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Re: (Daniel06SI)
No..intake is installed right. The hose does connect to the breather. So it's not the installation. There is no trace of oil in the hose or anywhere. It might be because I vtec a lot but still that should burn all the oil within 4000 miles the way I see it. And intake does NOT void your warranty if u know what I am talking about. I just wanna know what the heck is burning all the oil...