Notices
Honda Civic (2001 - 2005) Coupe / Sedan / Hybrid (Includes Acura EL)

D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Old 03-18-2010, 04:12 AM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)
































MAP and TPS














Old 03-18-2010, 06:54 AM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
jdmfreak1992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Stillwater, OK, United States
Posts: 334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

Thats cool nice job did you have to rewire any sensors?
Old 03-18-2010, 07:54 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Pothole987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Canada's Ocean Playground
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

How long have you been running this on the car? i wanna know how long the gasket will hold up.
and this means you can put s/c's on these if it does infact work.
Old 03-18-2010, 09:37 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

sorryy

I don't know english

i m speak turkish
Old 03-18-2010, 09:52 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

Originally Posted by jdmfreak1992
Thats cool nice job did you have to rewire any sensors?
Again , I didn't do the cable

I only extended cable. not cutting.
Old 03-18-2010, 09:56 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

Originally Posted by Pothole987
How long have you been running this on the car? i wanna know how long the gasket will hold up.
and this means you can put s/c's on these if it does infact work.
I am useing one weeks

*Gasket Oem steel. What damage there
Old 03-18-2010, 10:01 AM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
SONER-VTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ankara, TURKEY
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

despe is my friend. he has bee nusing this intake for one week. oem gasket is made up of steel. so what kind of damage do you expect?
Old 03-18-2010, 12:18 PM
  #8  
Sanji
iTrader: (1)
 
toyomatt84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ALL BLUE
Posts: 27,541
Received 35 Likes on 31 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

Originally Posted by Pothole987
How long have you been running this on the car? i wanna know how long the gasket will hold up.
and this means you can put s/c's on these if it does infact work.
Actually, I think the issue was not with mounting it to the head, but pulley clearance to the strut tower.

1992-2000
Name:  Picture092.jpg
Views: 8993
Size:  77.2 KB

2001-2005
Old 03-18-2010, 11:32 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Engine : D16v1
Ecu : D17a2 vtec @ 6880 rpm
Stock intake manifold

Full throttle afr 13,2-13,5......redline 11,5-11,8

Engine : D16v1
Ecu : D17a2 vtec @ 6880 rpm
D16y8 intake manifold

Full throttle afr 13,9......redline 13-13,2

must be full throttle 13,5......redline 12,4
Old 03-19-2010, 07:04 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
b0yg0tskills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: milwaukee, wi, usa
Posts: 445
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

If someone could translate and answer some question that would be awesome.

Does the car through off any sensors?

How is the clearance from the manifold and the firewall?

Working properly?
Old 03-19-2010, 08:54 AM
  #11  
Junior Member
 
SONER-VTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ankara, TURKEY
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Originally Posted by b0yg0tskills
If someone could translate and answer some question that would be awesome.

Does the car through off any sensors?

How is the clearance from the manifold and the firewall?

Working properly?
He didnt cancel any sensors. The clearance is 2 cm...
Old 03-19-2010, 10:14 AM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
b0yg0tskills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: milwaukee, wi, usa
Posts: 445
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Originally Posted by SONER-VTI
He didnt cancel any sensors. The clearance is 2 cm...
I understand that he didnt cancel any sensors i meant likedoes the car through and check engine light or some sort? And to do this swap, does it open the car to anything good as in performance?
Old 03-19-2010, 12:51 PM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Pothole987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Canada's Ocean Playground
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

Originally Posted by toyomatt84
Actually, I think the issue was not with mounting it to the head, but pulley clearance to the strut tower.

1992-2000


2001-2005

wow i never even thought of the pulley.
Old 03-19-2010, 12:52 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Pothole987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Canada's Ocean Playground
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap photo

Originally Posted by despe
I am useing one weeks

*Gasket Oem steel. What damage there
i didn't say damage ugg... i said how long will it last.
Old 03-19-2010, 03:10 PM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

I don't know on me

If comes the damage, I exchange p2r thermal gasket install.
Old 03-20-2010, 01:49 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

BEFORE


AFTER (don't remap)
Old 03-20-2010, 03:33 PM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
ChanTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Melbourne, Vic, Australia
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

so can i put D16y8 intake manifold to my non-vtec and will it need a aftermarket ecu?
Old 03-20-2010, 08:33 PM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
 
seeodywhy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

What pulley? Please tell me what pulley. Not that I want to do this swap I want to know what puley needs clearence. How could the intake swap cause pulley clearence issues.
Old 03-21-2010, 07:55 AM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Originally Posted by ChanTech
so can i put D16y8 intake manifold to my non-vtec and will it need a aftermarket ecu?
ecu d16v1 to d7a2

d17a2: 6880 rpm + apexi safc2
Old 03-21-2010, 08:37 AM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
baron340's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Ok.. seriously guys.. He isn't the first to this swap or the last. I am very surprised he got the throttle body to fit like he did, but other than that, it's been done. I used a custom plate machined to fit the d17 TB and the IACV slot. I had some big problems trying to get this manifold to idle correclty with only a piggy back. With k-pro it works fabulously though. I don't know the differences in the engine in Turkey vs. the USDM d17, but the USDM ones have EGR. You MUST solve the EGR issue to keep from throwing a CEL. You either 1) use the d17 injector plate or 2) use k-pro. The firewall clearance isn't bad. You just have to move the AC line a little.
Old 03-21-2010, 09:48 AM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
despe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Originally Posted by baron340
Ok.. seriously guys.. He isn't the first to this swap or the last. I am very surprised he got the throttle body to fit like he did, but other than that, it's been done. I used a custom plate machined to fit the d17 TB and the IACV slot. I had some big problems trying to get this manifold to idle correclty with only a piggy back. With k-pro it works fabulously though. I don't know the differences in the engine in Turkey vs. the USDM d17, but the USDM ones have EGR. You MUST solve the EGR issue to keep from throwing a CEL. You either 1) use the d17 injector plate or 2) use k-pro. The firewall clearance isn't bad. You just have to move the AC line a little.
thanks. i m not speak english. sorry friends. If you want , I answer turkish

The answers

1. EGR = The cancellation, With Blind gasked- no problem.

2. İACV = Will be placed flange Later.

3. k-pro = Very expensive in turkey. apex-i safc2 I am useing

--------------------------------------------
1. EGR = Kör conta kullanarak valf üzerinden iptal ettik. Problem yok.

2. İACV = Şu an motor soğuk iken rölanti düşük. Ben gaz kelebeğinden ayarladım. Flange kullanarak problemi çözeceğim.

3. k-pro = Türkiyede çok pahalı. Benim steup ımdaki kişiler için gereksiz. safc2 kullanıyorum.
Old 03-25-2010, 07:59 PM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
 
em2-matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

just wondering but wouldn't having a d16 intake manifold on a d17 cause some restricted air flow?
Old 03-25-2010, 10:37 PM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
portaman03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: branford, ct, usa
Posts: 830
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Originally Posted by despe
thanks. i m not speak english. sorry friends. If you want , I answer turkish

The answers

1. EGR = The cancellation, With Blind gasked- no problem.

2. İACV = Will be placed flange Later.

3. k-pro = Very expensive in turkey. apex-i safc2 I am useing

--------------------------------------------
1. EGR = Kör conta kullanarak valf üzerinden iptal ettik. Problem yok.

2. İACV = Şu an motor soğuk iken rölanti düşük. Ben gaz kelebeğinden ayarladım. Flange kullanarak problemi çözeceğim.

3. k-pro = Türkiyede çok pahalı. Benim steup ımdaki kişiler için gereksiz. safc2 kullanıyorum.
Your English is not that bad.
Old 03-25-2010, 10:37 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
portaman03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: branford, ct, usa
Posts: 830
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Originally Posted by em2-matt
just wondering but wouldn't having a d16 intake manifold on a d17 cause some restricted air flow?
Why would you think that.
Old 03-26-2010, 08:39 AM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
 
em2-matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)

Originally Posted by portaman03
Why would you think that.
i thought maybe the size of the outlet holes on the d16 manifold would be smaller than the inlet on the d17 head

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: D17a2 - d16v1 to D16y8 İntake Manifold Swap (WARNING! Large photos!)



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:39 PM.