Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
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Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
On my way home from work (in my 03 Accord 2door V6 EXL) about 2 weeks ago now my Battery, TCS, ABS, and the brake light all came on at once first time its ever happened. weird stuff is the lights would go off depending on how i revved the engine or would come on when i touched the brake... after about 10min of fighting this all the warning lights went off and everything was normal got home just fine.
The next morning got up to find that my doors wouldn't unlock when i used my keless entry so i old schooled it opened the door attempted to start the car an not one light came on nothing even attempted to glow...
So dead battery, pull it out of the car take it to Honda bought a new batt just 2 years ago still under the 3 year warranty so they gave me a new battery took it home threw it in the car starts up no warning lights all seems good...
Drive about 8 miles no problem get one the high way get up to about 70mph and my rpms and mph booth fall to 0 then shoot back up battery light comes on took it to a shop that i now a few people at ... they looked at it for 2 seconds...
the NEW battery was leaking battery acid(out of the positive side) mechanic said it wasn't sealed correctly and by the time i go to head back to Honda this NEW battery is dead this is the same day i got this battery!
So i use my car for work i delver used rims to stores all over Colorado... so i need my car to work! went to walmart bought a battery there put it in starts up fine no issues except now my radios locked my turn signals passenger window and hazards all don't work....
I thought simple fix went in to the two fuses boxes found 4 bad fuses and replaced them. Turn the car back on passenger side window was cracked a little wont roll down still but it rolled up all the way... hazard and turn signals function inside the car but the lights still don't respond on the out side of the vehicular but all my brake head and amber lights function fine...
took the bad battery in to Honda to replace it so i could return the walmart battery to get my 100$ back Honda basically told me they wanted $100 to inspect my car b4 they'd give me a new battery but only if they found it as "the battery's doing" so i asked if it is the battery's fault would i still have to pay the $100 for the inspection... didn't even batt an eyelash and told me yes
anyways.... at this point i just want ideas on what i should look at to get my turn signals working!
and any comments about the whole happening would be great
oh and this is my first post!
sorry if my sp/gr is a lil off
The next morning got up to find that my doors wouldn't unlock when i used my keless entry so i old schooled it opened the door attempted to start the car an not one light came on nothing even attempted to glow...
So dead battery, pull it out of the car take it to Honda bought a new batt just 2 years ago still under the 3 year warranty so they gave me a new battery took it home threw it in the car starts up no warning lights all seems good...
Drive about 8 miles no problem get one the high way get up to about 70mph and my rpms and mph booth fall to 0 then shoot back up battery light comes on took it to a shop that i now a few people at ... they looked at it for 2 seconds...
the NEW battery was leaking battery acid(out of the positive side) mechanic said it wasn't sealed correctly and by the time i go to head back to Honda this NEW battery is dead this is the same day i got this battery!
So i use my car for work i delver used rims to stores all over Colorado... so i need my car to work! went to walmart bought a battery there put it in starts up fine no issues except now my radios locked my turn signals passenger window and hazards all don't work....
I thought simple fix went in to the two fuses boxes found 4 bad fuses and replaced them. Turn the car back on passenger side window was cracked a little wont roll down still but it rolled up all the way... hazard and turn signals function inside the car but the lights still don't respond on the out side of the vehicular but all my brake head and amber lights function fine...
took the bad battery in to Honda to replace it so i could return the walmart battery to get my 100$ back Honda basically told me they wanted $100 to inspect my car b4 they'd give me a new battery but only if they found it as "the battery's doing" so i asked if it is the battery's fault would i still have to pay the $100 for the inspection... didn't even batt an eyelash and told me yes
anyways.... at this point i just want ideas on what i should look at to get my turn signals working!
and any comments about the whole happening would be great
oh and this is my first post!
sorry if my sp/gr is a lil off
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
did you check you alternator
maybe its bad or going out out. i had a similar problem on my bike
driving 80mph and cluster stopped working. then it started it and rode home but everything was acting up. then got home everything was fine. but checked alternator and it was bad changed that never had a problem again
voltages going to battery should be 14.7 or so at least more than 14
maybe its bad or going out out. i had a similar problem on my bike
driving 80mph and cluster stopped working. then it started it and rode home but everything was acting up. then got home everything was fine. but checked alternator and it was bad changed that never had a problem again
voltages going to battery should be 14.7 or so at least more than 14
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
ya i had the alternator checked at the shop when i had the new battery put it and its functioning fine and if it wasn't the new battery would have died and that wouldn't affect my turn signals...
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
So why are you still trying to drive it?
You obviously have electrical problems and don't know how how to fix them so just bring it to a shop or the dealer you got it from.
Keep driving it like that and they'll void the warantee
You obviously have electrical problems and don't know how how to fix them so just bring it to a shop or the dealer you got it from.
Keep driving it like that and they'll void the warantee
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
I dont think anyone here is going to be able too help you... this seems to be between you and your dealer. good luck
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
Seems to me, if the car is under warranty, you should have let them diagnose the problem. Unless, of course, you did something that could have caused the problems. That would not be covered. How do you still have warranty on an 03? Certified Used? Extended warranty?
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
Sounds an awful lot to me like the voltage regulator in the alternator is fried and its overcharging. I can't see honda replacing that battery if it is. $100 for a diagnostic fee is a little steep, but it totally depends on the dealer as to what they want to charge.
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
Your alternator is bad.
Period.
Everything you've described is characteristic of a bad alternator on a '98+ Accord V6. The original battery, which you replaced unnecessarily, was more than likely fine and only needed a charge.
And by the way, the indicator light that depicts a battery actually has nothing to do with the battery itself - it's a warning light for the charging system, and will illuminate when the alternator is not producing the correct voltage.
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
Belt will put the battery light on, but the fact that the battery is leaking suggests to me that its overcharging. I've seen voltage regulators fail in older civics where the alternator will put out 18v at idle.
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
Wrong.
Your alternator is bad.
Period.
Everything you've described is characteristic of a bad alternator on a '98+ Accord V6. The original battery, which you replaced unnecessarily, was more than likely fine and only needed a charge.
And by the way, the indicator light that depicts a battery actually has nothing to do with the battery itself - it's a warning light for the charging system, and will illuminate when the alternator is not producing the correct voltage.
Your alternator is bad.
Period.
Everything you've described is characteristic of a bad alternator on a '98+ Accord V6. The original battery, which you replaced unnecessarily, was more than likely fine and only needed a charge.
And by the way, the indicator light that depicts a battery actually has nothing to do with the battery itself - it's a warning light for the charging system, and will illuminate when the alternator is not producing the correct voltage.
Next time get your car checked. Stop driveway diagnosing and blaming Honda when things don't go well. I hope you haven't fried too much stuff from driving around like that. Maybe if the independent would have looked for more than 2 seconds...
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
I'm going through something similar, though not quite as bad. I've only got the battery/dying thing down right now, but don't have any weird electrical issues so much.
Okay, granted I did have an aftermarket alarm system in there that was apparently sapping energy at all times. I removed that and things got a lot better, but I think that it wore on the system a bit since it was malfunctioning for so long.
Anyway, I purchased this Honda and within a day my radio started cutting out and then the battery light popped on while I was on lunch. So I tested the battery and it came back as bad. I just figured initially that it was just an old battery. It happens.
Put a new battery in ($65 from Autozone) and it ran great since then.
Then twenty days later in traffic, again, I had been sitting for several minutes stuck, my radio started to cut out and then the battery light popped on again. Went to Autozone and the battery (third battery ever in the car since I got the car) tested bad. So I did a warranty exchange. $0 to Autozone and they give me a new battery.
I then tested the charging system. It came back saying "FAILED LOW REGULATOR" and "FAILED DIODE".
So now I know that my battery is being killed by my alternator, which is bad. Unfortunately I've come upon an expected expense by no fault of my own, so I can't get that alternator quite yet.
Once the alternator goes bad the car will often begin running off the battery.
Okay, granted I did have an aftermarket alarm system in there that was apparently sapping energy at all times. I removed that and things got a lot better, but I think that it wore on the system a bit since it was malfunctioning for so long.
Anyway, I purchased this Honda and within a day my radio started cutting out and then the battery light popped on while I was on lunch. So I tested the battery and it came back as bad. I just figured initially that it was just an old battery. It happens.
Put a new battery in ($65 from Autozone) and it ran great since then.
Then twenty days later in traffic, again, I had been sitting for several minutes stuck, my radio started to cut out and then the battery light popped on again. Went to Autozone and the battery (third battery ever in the car since I got the car) tested bad. So I did a warranty exchange. $0 to Autozone and they give me a new battery.
I then tested the charging system. It came back saying "FAILED LOW REGULATOR" and "FAILED DIODE".
So now I know that my battery is being killed by my alternator, which is bad. Unfortunately I've come upon an expected expense by no fault of my own, so I can't get that alternator quite yet.
Once the alternator goes bad the car will often begin running off the battery.
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
idk why it keeps switching my user name and my name with the face book login but this is evin anyways...
Still driving my car just fine off the new battery i put in from walmart so all u sticks in the mud no it isn't the alternator. and im not even the least bit concerned that its is because the battery would have been long dead by now if it was.
Also why would a dying alternator cause a brand new battery to start spiting its acids everywhere? I cant think of any reason maybe its just that the battery i was given just so happened to not be sealed correctly, i mean mistakes happen but when they do things should be made right.
And the car wasn't under warranty i bought the BATTERY from Honda in 08 Ive had the car senc 06 the BATTERY was the only thing still under warranty.
but my concern
I want to know what els there is to look at other then the two fuse boxes for getting my turn signal/hazards lights to respond on the out side of the car...
Still driving my car just fine off the new battery i put in from walmart so all u sticks in the mud no it isn't the alternator. and im not even the least bit concerned that its is because the battery would have been long dead by now if it was.
Also why would a dying alternator cause a brand new battery to start spiting its acids everywhere? I cant think of any reason maybe its just that the battery i was given just so happened to not be sealed correctly, i mean mistakes happen but when they do things should be made right.
And the car wasn't under warranty i bought the BATTERY from Honda in 08 Ive had the car senc 06 the BATTERY was the only thing still under warranty.
but my concern
I want to know what els there is to look at other then the two fuse boxes for getting my turn signal/hazards lights to respond on the out side of the car...
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Re: Thx honda... WARNING RANT INSIDE
+ Honda originally agreed on the first battery brought in that it was the battery simply by checking the battery with there tester and one of the mechanics even mentioned at the time he didn't believe it was the alternator. and once agn i said in my first post with the walmart battery car is driving fine no problems just no turn signals!
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