hondaracer4vtec

Hey Guys, this is my 3rd time taking my accord to the dealer for the same repair.

I have this vibration at 60 mph on the steering wheel and the car as well. They balanced the tires, took tires out from another car that didnt shake and still mine does. The dealer called me up and told me to take pick up the car and that they were going to take a couple of weeks to get a mechanic from the honda manufactor to take a look at my car. They took my rental car and told me that my car was safe to drive. They said the Honda is aware of the problem and is going to have to fix this up. But they will not let me have a rental car. I called up the honda customer service they said the only thing i can do is to have a claim put on them to find out (could take a couple more days) Does anyone here have the same problem out here. Does anyone have a phone number that I can call to speak to the Tech line team to find out more info on this.

This really has been a pain as its been in the shop 3 times and still not fixed. anyone know what else this might cause this vibe. Thanks guys


Modified by hondaracer4vtec at 12:27 PM 8/21/2008

MSchu

No shaking on mine, or any of the other v6 coupes I have driven...

I seriously doubt they replaced your tires with a set from another car. Shaking from the steering wheel at or around 60mph is tire/rim balance.

I really do not think runout would be an issue other wise the vibration would increase and decrease with speed. I have always wondered about the TMPS sensor and how much it plays a factor in rim/tire balance...

hondaracer4vtec

MSchu I was there and I saw them changing the tires and the rims....they swapped out the TMPS and the shaking was on my car and the other car was still good after the swap...Also the tires, you know when they are new they have those little things hanging out I took those out....(like neddles).

I wonder whats wrong......

MSchu

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaracer4vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">MSchu I was there and I saw them changing the tires and the rims....they swapped out the TMPS and the shaking was on my car and the other car was still good after the swap...Also the tires, you know when they are new they have those little things hanging out I took those out....(like neddles).

I wonder whats wrong...... </TD></TR></TABLE>


Nipples... Hmmmm, 60mph is the key here

hondaracer4vtec

Nipples?


whats that?

Thanks Mschu.....Funny thing is that the service manager says that Honda is aware of the issue and they are coming to fix it. Is my car like a test vechile where the manufactor has to send his mechanics.....I hope no one else has this problem or its very rare......

rnepmc077

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I seriously doubt they replaced your tires with a set from another car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

they most likely did. if it was a defective tire that would be the easiest way to find out. ive seen parts switched out from new cars to test if a problem is just with a defective part.

cjo_28

Where do you live? Vibrations are EXTREMELY common in Phoenix, but it's usually the tires.

You say they swapped your wheels on another vehicle and nothing changed (on that vehicle and on yours)?

Rumor is, there is a fix coming for the noise cancellation system that the V6, 2008 Accords use (it works through your speakers). I haven't seen it yet, and I'm a little skeptical.

NoBrows

wheel bearings? does the car make a roaring noise?
how does the tire wear look?

hondaracer4vtec

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjo_28 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where do you live? Vibrations are EXTREMELY common in Phoenix, but it's usually the tires.

You say they swapped your wheels on another vehicle and nothing changed (on that vehicle and on yours)?

Rumor is, there is a fix coming for the noise cancellation system that the V6, 2008 Accords use (it works through your speakers). I haven't seen it yet, and I'm a little skeptical. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I live in NYC. also mine is the v6 6speed where there is no VCM. The dealer just told me that Honda is aware of the problem and the dealer has 2 other cars that have the same problem as mine that came in the last week.

My car was still shaking after the swap. and the other car was fine after the swap.

hondaracer4vtec

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NoBrows &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wheel bearings? does the car make a roaring noise?
how does the tire wear look?

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not the wheel bearing cause there is no noise just the shaking of the car. (car has 2500 miles) Tire wear was fine for the amount of miles.

hondaracer4vtec

Hey guys, my TPMS just came on after i left the shop and drove like 30 miles back to my house. Called them up and they told me that the sensors need to be reset. Can that happen? shouldnt the light go on as soon as the car is started.

BTW the tires are fine and the air pressure is good.

Anyone have info on the tech line that honda service departments use???

cjo_28

Are you using an accurate air gauge?

Air up the tires to about 38 psi if the wheels are warm. The TPMS system will turn on the light if it reads 24 psi, but there is a tolerance in anything mechanical/electronic and most air gauges are off a few PSI (at least).

In other words, you gauge might read 30 psi, but the actual pressue is 27 psi. One of the crappy TPMS sensors might be off by 3 psi and think that there is only 24 psi in the tire. Bam! The light comes on.

And there's one other complication. If you set your tires to the cold spec when they are warm, they'll drop about 4 psi when they cool back down. That's why I said to air them up to about 38 psi if warm...

NoBrows

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaracer4vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone have info on the tech line that honda service departments use???</TD></TR></TABLE>

you must be a tech most likely a master tech to use this their not even going to talk to you

hondaracer4vtec

Looked at mine at cold tire pressure and its 33psi

hondaracer4vtec

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NoBrows &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you must be a tech most likely a master tech to use this their not even going to talk to you</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but i wanted to know if they have me on the schedule and if and when they are coming. My dealer didnt tell me anything just was like we'll call you when the guy is here.

Something has to be wrong with the 8 master techs couldn't figure out whats wrong.

roycivic92

my buddy is a honda mechanic and he said that they cant find it(the vibration). i just got a 08 lx-p on his recommendation.

hondaracer4vtec

Roycivic92

Yeah good thing Iam not the only one. Do you know if the ealer you are working with is going to get some help from honda? My dealer is stating that they are having a mechanic coming in from Honda (top mechanic) does your shake at 60mph aand up

roycivic92

my friend told me that its happenig on the coupes only . mine sedan is fine.

MSchu

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross 2.0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes there are a lot of 08 Accords with the vibration. Honda is indeed aware of the issue and is most definately working very feverishly on the problem. However, as of yet there is no cure for the vibrations.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Proof?

Coupe here... NO VIBRATIONS

hondaracer4vtec

My dealer told me that they have a sedan with the same problem but then again who knows......still waiting for them to give me an service date.

hondaracer4vtec

MSchu, your very lucky then

other than the vib the car is awesome!

MSchu i'll see if I can pdf the last service invoice or take a pic of it for your guys

hondaracer4vtec

heres proof

MSchu

How is that proof of Honda "WORKING" feverishly?

So is it a vibration or a shimmy? they are completely different.

Also, its not luck... MOST accords are not "Feverishly" shimmying or vibrating, and if they are, most owners correct the tire pressure to alleviate the issue of the characteristic of the OEM tires.

if you have a deeper issue, Honda will help you work through it, if it is simply bad OEM tires, expect to buy new tires

MSchu

Who are you again...


While it's certainly true the OEM tires are less than excellent... I think proper adjustment of pressure can and will alleviate most of these superficial shimmy issues Most certainly any car will act nervous with the wrong tire stagger/pressures, and I found this to be especially true with the accords OEM tires and the OEM pressure suggestion... a quick pressure adjustment and they issues tracking issue was gone.

MSchu

IF you have some documented information I will allow it in the forum...


Modified by MSchu at 7:17 AM 8/27/2008