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Old 10-15-2014, 09:25 PM
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Default what truely adds hp-increases hp-speed?

what really adds hp? what really adds speed? f22a1 engine stuff? has to be naturally aspirated need help. has factory header on it now, 91 accord ex.. what really makes a difference?
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intake manifold, cam, exhaust system, high compression pistons with boring and head porting as well. and last a tune
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A6 is mostly the same engine, larger cam, windage tray, different intake manifold and of course the ECU. That makes 15HP more than your engine.

Slap on a turbo and you should be able to gain 40-50HP with mild boost and good tuning.
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With regards to speed aspect your wheels you run make a huge difference. Lighter skinnier wheels mean faster road speed. Then on that subject bulk weight in the car can be a difference. Replacing parts for lightweight and removing unwanted accessories like a/c, rear seats, spare wheel etc
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What's your goal?
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We race on a dirt oval against the mustang 2.3s with the solid lift heads-long rod bottom ends I wanna outrun them, every week we get our a"" handed to us weekly due to them murdering us, we have even went from a 15 inch tire and wheel down to 13s and still getting murdered
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p12 ecu from a prelude adds 5+ hp, you can try that.
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What do the rules allow?
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for real where in the heck was all this information at? did i miss it in the op's post? did he post it in another thread or something??????
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i know there has been two threads on this already...... um couldn't find them but they are floating around here
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Default Re: what truely adds hp-increases hp-speed?

Originally Posted by KcAccord
p12 ecu from a prelude adds 5+ hp, you can try that.
Uh what? I really doubt this claim.
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the 4th gen prelude S came with a f22a1 rated at 135hp, the IM and exhaust are the same so the only difference i heard is the ECU heard this claim on cb7 forum and the benefit is small but with some a6 upgrades you get more out of it. (correction 10+ forgot the f22a1 accord is rated at 125hp sorry)
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"Rated" vs "Puts down" are different things. It could very well have a more aggressive tune on it, but from this standpoint, it's moot.
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Originally Posted by KcAccord
the 4th gen prelude S came with a f22a1 rated at 135hp, the IM and exhaust are the same so the only difference i heard is the ECU heard this claim on cb7 forum and the benefit is small but with some a6 upgrades you get more out of it. (correction 10+ forgot the f22a1 accord is rated at 125hp sorry)
Sure enough, looks like guys are doing it. I doubt the difference is noticeable though. Rated 10hp higher isn't going to really feel like much of a boost when it gets to the wheels.
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we have open rules other than no nitrous-turbo-supercharger, limted to a sohc only we aren't aloud the dohc engines
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http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=95154
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h22a intake will fit a f22a1 head?????
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h22a intake will fit a f22a1 head?????
No. But it will with one of these:
Evolution F2H Intake Manifold Adaptor | 29611

Also, a K-series intake can be made to fit with relative ease, too. Takes a bit more fab, but it can be done and K20A2 intake manifolds are cheap and pretty efficient to 7500ish RPM.
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Sweet thanks Just spent $600 between my new Skunk2 pro series h22 intake and that adapter
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Cool. Interested to see what kind of results you get out of it.
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Im curious as to what size throttle body& what size injectors to run. Considering engine is stock other than the fact im changing intakes-ect May also consider changing the Cam over to a A6 and that ecu..

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If you're going to change the camshaft, might as well get it reground to something more aggressive.
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what would you suggest?
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H22 SKUNK2 MANIFOLD GO WITH 70MM and bore out the intake to the same. the cam, look into webcams which is the manufacture that use to make regrinds for bisimoto.
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