Adam_F123

OK, this is a 2 part post.

First, can an overfilled trans cause problems? I just got the car a few months ago, and I went to drain the trans fluid. I pulled the fill plug off, and then went to loosen the drain plug. To my surprise, fluid started to POUR out of the FILL plug. Whomever filled it up last time (my brother's friend) must have somehow overfilled it. Anyways, I filled it back up with 2 quarts of 10w-40.


Second, my car is making a weird groaning noise. Almost sounds like the noise my big 36" mud tires make on the road in my truck. It changes pitch with the speed of the car, and sometimes if I step on the brake on the highway. I can let the clutch in, but that doesnt change the sound. It's a low "groan" kinda like grrrrrrrrr..... and it changes pitch and volume with the vehicle speed. Hope you can figure it out!

1993 Accord 5 speed.

JimBlake

The noise sounds like a wheel bearing.

Overfilled tranny is probably OK, unless it was WAY too much.

Adam_F123

Hmmm.never thought about the wheel bearings. I guess I should jack it up and spin the wheels. I thought you'd hear a screeching or grinding noise if the bearings were going bad.

But the noise is VERY quiet. You can really only hear it when it gets up to about 40mph, although you can hear it below that, but you have to have a really good ear. Even at speed I have to turn off the a/c and roll up the windows to hear the noise.

I'm driving 8 hours to Detroit on the 30th and I want to get this fixed.

Beach Accord

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If the Bearing Is Not Under Load And Not Spinning Fast Enuff, the Sound Probably Wont Present Itself.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Adam_F123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought you'd hear a screeching or grinding noise if the bearings were going bad.

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that should be dependent on how they went bad. metal burrs? lack of lubrication? cracked bearing race?

JimBlake

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Adam_F123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmm.never thought about the wheel bearings. I guess I should jack it up and spin the wheels. I thought you'd hear a screeching or grinding noise if the bearings were going bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>With the bearing not loaded, you might have to take off the brake & axle in order to even feel the roughness.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Adam_F123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But the noise is VERY quiet. You can really only hear it when it gets up to about 40mph, although you can hear it below that, but you have to have a really good ear. Even at speed I have to turn off the a/c and roll up the windows to hear the noise.</TD></TR></TABLE>Wheel bearings can get loose, then you can grab the wheel & wobble it. Or they can get tight & make any number of different noises depending on how the bearing surface is damaged. Last one I had sounded just like a big knobby mud tire. I had just bought new snow tires & I spent the first winter bitching about how noisy those blizzaks were. Then I put the summer tires back on & the noise didn't go away...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Adam_F123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm driving 8 hours to Detroit on the 30th and I want to get this fixed. </TD></TR></TABLE>You might be OK, but you might not. Bearings NEVER heal by themselves. With my luck it would come apart in the middle of some cornfield 100 miles from nowhere.

16.45_stock_94accord

and if u have a haynes manual for ur honda... it says to fill the tranny fluid up till it pours out of the fill hole so it prolly wasnt overfiller either. depending how much came out lol..

AcCO12D95

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 16.45_stock_94accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and if u have a haynes manual for ur honda... it says to fill the tranny fluid up till it pours out of the fill hole so it prolly wasnt overfiller either. depending how much came out lol.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Really!? I was scared that I put in a little to much, since I put a little over the 2.5 qts your supposed to put in, since I have a tranny cooler.

What section in the Haynes manual does it state this? I have it, but didn't come across that..when looking for it.

Thanks

JimBlake

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AcCO12D95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... since I have a tranny cooler...</TD></TR></TABLE>Do you have an automatic? If so this whole thread doesn't apply to your tranny.

Adam_F123

Yes, usually the reccomended way to fill a trans is to fill it to the fill plug untill it starts to SEEP out.

When I pulled the plug, fluid POURED OUT. Not just dribbled, but in a few seconds I had a half a quart of oil on the floor. I'm guessing whomever filled it up last time filled it up in the wrong fill plug or something.


All of my manuals, and AutoZone, say to refill with 2.0 quarts of fluid, or 2.1 quarts of fluid if the trans is DRY. So I did not want to overfill it again.


Also, I'm not sure its the wheel bearings either. People say that if you turn or change lanes on the highway, the sounds should change. It does not change if I do this. It might even be my tires. I'm going to rotate them and see what happens.