gotofbi

I have a 2002 Accord EX V6 with 91k meters.

The transmission is not slipping between gears, but the shift from 1st to 2nd gear and 2nd to 3rd are bit sudden

The symptom looks like due to dropping from just above 3000RPM to 2000RPM during the shift.

Sometimes, it drops to 1800RPM which makes huge impact to the car.

I feel like I drive manual car whenever this happens.

The impact also happens during 3rd to 4th but usually, its around 2400RPM so I do not get much of impact.

So, right now, I am trying to maintain about 2500RPM all the time to reduce the impact of shifting.

I also checked the transmission oil and its very clean color.

However, when I swipe the dipstick, I see some kind of black dust comes out from the edge of dipstick.


I am not sure what is the problem.

I searched a lot in this forum and found the transmission is piece of crap.

However, I did not see anyone with this type of problem.


Someone please let me know what is the main problem.


Thank you very much!!!

MAD_MIKE

The black dust is most likely clutch material from the clutch packs inside the transmission. You can try draining and refilling the transmission with fluid to see if it helps. Do not flush. Only drain and refill.
That sounds like the same problem other '98-'02 automatic Accord owners have posted with hard shifting.
I do not know if the problem with the shifting is due to a hardware issue, or software(program) issue, or both. What seems to happen is 2nd gear will wear out prematurely, and the clutch material blocks a passage inside the transmission, which will then kill the transmission. Draining and refilling the transmission 2-3 times will help in removing the 'dust' from the transmission. But it may not cure the problem.

You can also check the shift solenoids are clean and free of debris.

gotofbi

Thank you for your replay.

I guess I gotta change ATF as soon as possible.

One more question, how do I check the shift solenoids are clean and free of debris???


Thank you.

00Sixxer3.0

Mine does this from time to time..but only 2nd to 3rd...I also did a "drain and refill" its help for a little while but then came back...=[

MAD_MIKE

http://techauto.awardspace.com/transmission.html

When you change your fluid, make sure to wipe the drain plug clean, it is a magnet and will accumulate the particles floating in the fluid.

oooitzcharlie

dang 91k meters ur car must be brand new with only about 56 miles on it .hehe

anyways try draining and refilling like others said. when i had my 02 v6 it did the same thing and i believe it is tranny going out but didnt keep it long enough to see

Relax Jr.

I have an v4 02 Accord and around the same time as you I started having a lil tranny problem but it was still under warranty so they fixed it.

Relax Jr.

Some problems I've noticed with my 2002 Accord 2.3L 4cyl... 1st personal-The tranny started messing up? around 75k. Like it would stay in a gear for a second after it changed gears...? Whatever, warranty covered it. 2nd. I think that was under warranty too. Idle control Valve (ICV) would run at a low rpm and be struggling sometimes when stopped to that it'd almost shut the engine off, that only happened once tho and I think in my garage cuz I was revin it to see. I'm now at 121,000k and it's been doing it every now and then but its not a problem, doesnt mess with the driving and it's rare. So whatever. So that's a recurring problem for MY Accord.
Now on many Accords MANY on 2002 I see water has gotten into the read break lights, including mine, no technical problems with it but cosmetic (for now), the water takes off the silver paint in the rear brake light box...Can't really notice unless you look. We'd notice. Lol. Thats not been recalled and so many have that problem, strange.
Oh yeah, an Airbag recall I think it twas in 2010, if not 2010 def. 2009. They took care of that well. As with the tranny. Gas isn't good for a 4cyl 2.3L!! 23 Hwy/St. 30 Hwy. I never drive just street si I dunno bout that, I live in Los Angeles. I actually think it's too big of a car for such a small engine, it feels heavy unless it's in D3,lol. If they wanted to do a V4 at least put a bigger engine, I dunno. At least 2.5!! Just wanted to inform ppl because I see ppl posting regarding these things, so yes they happen.

Bwill9886

First off it's an I4 (inline), not a V4.

Second, the 6th gen accords with the V6 are known to have serious transmission issues at some point in their lives (MAD MIKE addressed this earlier). While you having issues with your auto mated to the F23a is not unheard of (they weren't the best transmissions either), you issue does not relate to this post.

Third, you can stop spamming the quote below this in every thread concerning transmissions... Along with the random post in the thread about 6th gen coupe rear bumpers. It's not really helping anyone, and if you wanted more pep and better gas mileage, you should have got a manual transmission.

With it, the car isn't fast, but it's not a dog like you describe.

Relax Jr.

What the hell are you talking about? I don't know about previous 'threads' and could care less about V4 versus 4 cyl. Those who think can figure that one out. Also, don't talk about, 'not helping anyone'. Speak for yourself. And I didnt mention Coupe bumpers. I drive a sedan, and was simply noting problems that I've had with my Accord, so Relax jr. Don't get ahead of yourself. Who's spamming? I didn't want a manual trans.
Referring to it as a dog, I drive it everyday and don't remember calling it a dog, but ok. My car is as I mentioned. Period. Who the hell are you to come up talking like you know MY vehicle. YOUR comments arent helping ANYONE. I stand by my previous post 100%. So, Relax junior.

Bwill9886

So I'm the one that needs to relax... Right. You have a PM.

As for spamming:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/6th-gen-accord-coupe-back-bumper-2935319/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/transmission-problem-p0700-2935164/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/resetting-d4-light-after-new-transmission-2002-accord-se-2938462/

And then this thread.

The first thread looks like it's about a coupe bumper cover to me...

Relax Jr.

I'm new to this site and have no idea how or why what I posted on the thread regarding the guys transmission got spread around like that on to every thread on here. Maybe I pressed the wrong button or something. I truthfully don't remember or know how this site works. You shouldnt talk to new people in such a condescending manner. I'm here to learn and share because I love my Accord. Sorry if I don't know all the lingo. How you gonna send me a private msg then try and put me on blast in public. Thats messed up, man. Excuse me but usually if you try and check someone the way you did me, someone's gonna get pissed off. At least in the real world. I had no problem with the explanation in the private msg which was more respectful, but the public ones are condescending to someone new to the site. It's like you may be trying to show off knowing about something, put me on blast for not, or both. Chill with that. If you show respect you get respect back and I never said anything rude or disrespectful in my first posts.

Andrewelmer21

Problem...2000 accord v6. Sometimes when you stop at a light, then take off, its still in 2nd. Then you give it more gas to get going and it downshifts kinda hard. Doesn't always do it. Also, it sometimes shifts hard and late out of 1st. Any ideas??

adams90crx@msn.com

Accord Auto Trannys=JUNK ...point blank, so everyone just shut up about it. Stop fighting because you think you a honda god because your not. Grow up and get off these threads if spamming offends you.

Bwill9886

As you might have read, the V6's from the 6th generation Accords are quite prone to issues (especially with the 1st to 2nd gear shift). You can read through this thread or search through the dozens (possibly hundreds at this point?) of other threads concerning this issue.

Solutions are found in MAD_MIKE's post earlier in the thread or getting hold of a new transmission (You have a couple options for this). Be warned though, these tranny's still have a risk of failure even with proper maintenance. It's something you either learn to live with, or you move on.

I posted the spams because proof was requested and I didn't think this nonsense would keep going.

My mistake obviously.

Stick with PM's for any future, off-topic debate.