Teawins21

I read through a few old threads about the speedometer not working. However, they're all a bit off from my situation.

I've replaced the VSS with a different one from the junkyard and the speedo still only works when it wants to. Though it could be my imagination but it seems like it's working more often with the new VSS. When replacing the VSS there was a small little rod that sticks in the tranny and connects with the VSS. Is it normal for it to be loosely placed and that I'm able to take it out freely?

Cruise control does NOT work. It doesn't light up or operate, even when the speedo IS working.

Could I have gotten another defective VSS from the junkyard or is it the cluster itself?

fremontcivic

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well it is possible you got a bad VSS, I would (and maybe you already did this) check the plug that plugs into the VSS clean it with some contact cleaner and blow it out with an air gun, as far as it being loose I'm not sure about that...pm me and keep me informed as I'm about to swap mine as well

PaNcakdEJ1

Check your harness. It could be that the clip has some corrosion and its not making full contact. Had the same problem with my ek sedan . Good luck

mhonn

Are you having any issues with shifting? On my 1995 Accord I had lots of shifting issues and speedo not working propery, replaced VSS with new unit and everything is working fine now. Mine fit very tights with a actual little click when I installed it.

Frank Allen

Please tell me what a VSS is?? id love to know
Frank Allen

forestcd6

first thing would be to swap in a new gauge cluster. mine did the same thing and once i put in a new gauge cluster it fixed the issue.

Teawins21

I swapped out the vss from one I got from the junkyard. I'm thinking I could of picked up a bad one.

So you cleaned out the clip and it solved your problems? I'll try it tonight.
No shifting problems. I have a 5spd. The clip clicks in, I know that. But there's a little brass looking rod that sticks into the tranny and vss.

Vehicle speed sensor

I'm hoping a gauge swap will be a last resort since I have 375k on my original cluster and motor. It'd be nice to see my actual miles. With the exception of the miles I been putting on that's not counting of course...

Teawins21

So the cluster still does not work. It works more frequently when the weather's hot so it led me to believe that the solder expands when hot to make a better connection. I re-soldered every joint and still no luck.

I'm going to buy a new cluster. Does anybody know if it's possible to swap out the odometer or circuit board? I currently have 374k on the accord and would love to keep see the numbers going.

Thanks

Marine3533

i have a 91 n mine works off n on i think mines a bad ground from the wiring. do you think that could be the same with yours?

Teawins21

Don't think so. If you search around this is a very common problem in accords. And it seems as the VSS almost never fixes the problem. The only solution i see is to replace the cluster itself. I plan on going to the junkyard to get one this weekend.

However, I'm trying to find out whether there's a way to swap out the defective part of the cluster so I can keep my original odometer reading.

TheMuffinMan

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CEL, no Cruise, no speedo, no odometer - probably VSS
No CEL, Cruise, no speedo, no odometer - probably cluster


I know that's been posted multiple times. You do not list your car, but I personally would run an OBDII scanner on it just on the chance you have a dead CEL bulb or a stored VSS code. I would then purchase a new OEM VSS -

http://tasauto.com/Product/Detail.aspx?s=2878410&p=2

or browse around on HAP.

And clean both the contacts on the wiring (electrical contact cleaner spray) and clean out the area around the VSS to rule out any bad connections. I believe the new VSS comes with grease to lubricate the small pin as well.

Teawins21

1996 Accord LX.

CEL but for secondary o2 sensor, no cruise, no speedo, no odometer. Swapped VSS with one from a junkyard (could be bad too) did not change the small pin/gear.

Cluster works more often when hot out. Resoldered joints and had not luck. Fragment sentences galore.

Now, im still confused about the cruise control. When the speed IS working is the cruise suppose to work as well? Mine doesn't. It doesn't even light up green.

Second question if it is the cluster, can I swap out the part that is the cause of the problem and keep my original odometer reading?


btw, cleaned both ends of the clip with electrical spray as well.

TheMuffinMan

iTrader: (1)

If you search for the thread, you are not required to change out the whole cluster, you can open the back and swap just the circuit board.

And if it is the VSS, then cruise would never work. When was the last time you checked the CEL?

75aces

If you can get your hands on a cluster, it's possible to pull out your original cluster and put it into the newer one. I had a similar problem a few years back and ended up getting a newer cluster. It had a broken tab on the housing and I just moved most of the components to my original housing. All is well and works. I tried swapping my odometer, but it still failed with the new circuit board. Good luck.

Teawins21

I just checked it a few days ago. My plan now is to pick up a new (junkyard) cluster and another VSS and this time switch out the pin/gear too. I'll swap the VSS first and if it doesn't work i'll try using the new cluster. If it works i'll attempt swappiing out the components.

I'm pretty confident it's not my VSS. The speedo works exactly how it does with the original VSS i had. I'm just confused of why the cruise doesn't work. I've read somewhere the if something is wrong with the cruise control, speedo won't work as well. Not sure how much truth is in that though.

-BTW, are you on s2ki? I think I've talked to you before or something. Your s/n sounds very familiar. I switched my s/n to TookayS2K there.

Your post is a little confusing. You said all is well and works but the you say the ODO still failed with the new cluster?

TheMuffinMan

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Yes, that's me on S2ki I sold my modified Accord and moved to my AP2. I still have a 97 Accord however and stay around here.

I want to say there was a thread awhile back that had measurements from the VSS as to what it should be reporting with a multimeter. The user isolated the problem to the wiring between the VSS and ECU or something. But I can't recall. It is also possible you have an unrelated CC issue, like a bad relay, button, etc but can't know for sure until the cluster has been changed out. You could temporarily (for testing) just plug up the new cluster and see if it works.

Teawins21

I thought I saw your sn from somewhere before! I had an accord before my s2k as well. I sold it to free up some funds. I recently bought my current 96 accord for a DD cause driving my s2000 everyday got annoying. This beast has over 374k with original motor and tranny and running smooth as can be.

Yea, I search around for old threads on speedos all the time. I'll take a peak at some with checking the VSS with a multimeter. I'm headed to the junkyard this weekend. I'll be grabbing another cluster, vss, and CC button while I'm at it.

I'll be sure to update. Thanks for the help.

mhonn

VSS is Vehical (sp?) speed sensor. It is a little part that fits in the top of your transmission that does all sorts of things including controls speedo, deals with transmission. I replaced mine on my Honda Accord EX. Part about $75.00 and a pain in the butt to change but not hard. It is a part that for sure wears out. I would replace this part 1st before I sent any money on transmission work for sure. It seems to be the key to lots of other systems in the car.

Teawins21

Replaced cluster and works perfectly now.

TheMuffinMan

iTrader: (1)

Curious if you still have CC problems and/or if you replaced any cruise control components? If you didn't we can toss that on as one of the possible issues/fixes.

Frank Allen

what about the odometer, can the miles be changed to reflect what you had?? or does it come up with the former mileage?? cruise control work now??
Frank Allen

Teawins21

Cruise control still doesn't work. I think it's the switch because mine doesn't even light up green when I press it. I'll update once I can get my hands on a new switch.

Haven't had time to mess with the odometer yet.

Frank Allen

check the fuse in cruise control, also the plug under the hood that goes to CC . im haveing a time trying to get transmission fixed here in the Houston area, put three used ones in it all with problems, everybody tells me about warrenties until after the work is done , then they dont want to hear it, ive asked everbody around here for a referenc and havent found a single person that would recomend any of them. im now in the proseese of tring to replace all the bolts left from the last job i paid for, came back with two lug nuts missing , a ear broke off transmission case, two braces hanging in mid air, right front tie rod extremely loose, engine assy seems loose and shakes entire car when it shifts, a real mess.I have always had entegrity but it seems absent here in the transmssion business.
Frank allen
92 accord