standbackimapro

looks like i have a leaky oil pan, im gonna put a new gasket on, with the engine in the car.

is it a matter of just unbolting the old pan scraping off the gasket and putting the new gasket in place?

the only problem i can think of is holding the gasket in place, i was gonna silicone the gasket to the pan, then put it back on..

but do i need to silicone the gasket to the engine too?

BLKFLSH

You did not mention your year or model. If it is a 4th gen you will definitly have to remove the exhaust (not sure about other gens) to get the oil pan out and back in. Use Hondabond (rtv sealant) in the corners.

P_Adams

You will have to drop the exhaust as well on a 5th Gen as well ('94 thru '97) The downpipe passes right under the pan.
I believe the oil pan seal is a rubber affair, which is put in dry; with the exception of the affore mentioned (BLKFLSH)'s post about the HondaBond.

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TouringAccord

yes, the oil pan gasket is a rubber gasket. It may be a little stuck, just rip it off and make sure you clean the surface of the pan and the engine to make sure you get a good seal with the new gasket. Like BLKFLSH said, use HondaBond in the corners. Also, make sure you torque the nut/bolts to the correct spec. It is also recommended to tighten the nuts/bolts in stages. Going around about 3 different tightening more and more until you get to the desired torque on the third pass. Also, it is recommended that you tighten the nuts/bolts in a specific pattern. If you look in a manual, they should show the pattern I'm refering to.

deserthonda

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is it a matter of just unbolting the old pan scraping off the gasket and putting the new gasket in place?

the only problem i can think of is holding the gasket in place, i was gonna silicone the gasket to the pan, then put it back on..

but do i need to silicone the gasket to the engine too?</TD></TR></TABLE>

do not use silicone to hold the gasket in place you are not suppose to have anything on the flat surface of the gasket otherwise when you tighten it up it will make the gasket squish out and leak....., buy a can of spray trim adhesive , spray the block and spray the gasket, stick the gasket to the block or to the pan , i have done hundreds this way and have never had one come back ,,,, like it was suggested use honda bond but only on the curved corners on both side of the gasket ........

BLKFLSH

That stickey stuff sounds like a great idea (caught 10 kinds of hell with that sucker). Where were you when I was doing mine (8 years ago) haha. Live and learn, I guess.

standbackimapro

Ok just making sure, thanx guys

Schmitey

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That is one hell of a good idea!

BLKFLSH

I made the mistake of using Hondabond over the whole gasket. Then with all the moving around it did during installation, some of it ended up in the pan. I pretty sure that was what cause my oil pickup screen to get clogged, making the oil light come on. Had to do it all over again. I'd like to save someone else the trouble, if I can.

P_Adams

Don't feel too bad, as a flat rate technician I had to redo (I've forgotten how many) many engine jobs performed by others, just for this same reason. Even in applications where RTV is called for (In lieu of a gasket), care must be taken to apply only what's needed.
On of the best procedures I ever came up with for gasket installations involved two products.
1) 3M Type 77 spray contact cement or
2) 3M Weatherstrip Adhesive
which I used to locate and set the gasket so as it couldn't move during installation.
I never had a come-back

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BLKFLSH

Live and learn. Trial and error. If at first you don't succeed, try try again. The only people who don't muckup, are the one's who don't even try. That's all the generic excuses I can come up with. I just changed the timing chain on my truck, that was fun, LOL. But hey if I ever have to do it again, it will be much easier the second time. I like doing things myself. Can you believe some people don't even change their own oil? Maybe I'm just a cheapskate.

P_Adams

I call in Frugal, and where is it said that self educating yourself, and relying on yourself to get things done is a bad thing?

That's why I can feel my blood pressure spike every time I see a thread titled:
"I've got x# of dollars to spend, what do I do Now???"

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BLKFLSH

You will never, ever, catch me asking someone else, how to spend my money. Not a problem I can ever see myself having.