New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change
08-25-2004, 04:18 AM
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New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change
Hello,
First let me just say I am totally new to the H. Accords.
I just purchased a 1994 used h accord with 115k miles on it.
How difficult is it to change the oil and oil filter?
I have done oil changes on a neon, geo prizm, and toyota corolla.
I tried to do an oil change on my girls 2003 Honda CRV but was stopped dead, because I could not locate where the oil filter was hidden, that and the dealer that normally does her service overtightened her oil plug (only manual socket wrench.
Is the filter visible on the 1994 H. Accord?
Thanks for any and all advice!
First let me just say I am totally new to the H. Accords.
I just purchased a 1994 used h accord with 115k miles on it.
How difficult is it to change the oil and oil filter?
I have done oil changes on a neon, geo prizm, and toyota corolla.
I tried to do an oil change on my girls 2003 Honda CRV but was stopped dead, because I could not locate where the oil filter was hidden, that and the dealer that normally does her service overtightened her oil plug (only manual socket wrench.
Is the filter visible on the 1994 H. Accord?
Thanks for any and all advice!
08-25-2004, 04:39 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (newhondaowner29)
It's not that hard. The filter is located on the back side of the block under the intake manifold but above the intermediate shaft.
Once you have the oil drained you will need to lay on your back and reach up behind the block, being careful not to touch the hot exhaust pipe or hot intermediate shaft, and remove the filter. Lube the new filter and put it on to 16 ft/lb of torque. Then after reinstalling the drain plug with a new crush washer torque that down to 33 ft/lb. Now just put the new oil in and away you go.
Once you have the oil drained you will need to lay on your back and reach up behind the block, being careful not to touch the hot exhaust pipe or hot intermediate shaft, and remove the filter. Lube the new filter and put it on to 16 ft/lb of torque. Then after reinstalling the drain plug with a new crush washer torque that down to 33 ft/lb. Now just put the new oil in and away you go.
08-25-2004, 05:11 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (TouringAccord)
Thanks for your quick reply!
I only own manual socket wrenches, is it still possible to do the oil change?
Could I rent the air tools needed?
Thanks in advance!
I only own manual socket wrenches, is it still possible to do the oil change?
Could I rent the air tools needed?
Thanks in advance!
08-25-2004, 05:26 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (TouringAccord)
Damn you do it right huh? I just slap that filter on with some lube on the seal and hand tighten and then replace drain bolt with 10 year old washer and never had a problem. Then again one day I could. Better to do things right though.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TouringAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not that hard. The filter is located on the back side of the block under the intake manifold but above the intermediate shaft.
Once you have the oil drained you will need to lay on your back and reach up behind the block, being careful not to touch the hot exhaust pipe or hot intermediate shaft, and remove the filter. Lube the new filter and put it on to 16 ft/lb of torque. Then after reinstalling the drain plug with a new crush washer torque that down to 33 ft/lb. Now just put the new oil in and away you go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TouringAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not that hard. The filter is located on the back side of the block under the intake manifold but above the intermediate shaft.
Once you have the oil drained you will need to lay on your back and reach up behind the block, being careful not to touch the hot exhaust pipe or hot intermediate shaft, and remove the filter. Lube the new filter and put it on to 16 ft/lb of torque. Then after reinstalling the drain plug with a new crush washer torque that down to 33 ft/lb. Now just put the new oil in and away you go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
08-25-2004, 06:18 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (newhondaowner29)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newhondaowner29 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... Could I rent the air tools needed?</TD></TR></TABLE>Who said anything about air tools? A torque wrench takes your same sockets. It simply measures how tight, so you don't overtighten the drain plug.
If you lift the car a little bit (to be able to reach under for the filter), make SURE you do something safe. NOT a jack...
When you take the old filter off, wipe off the surface where it's gasket goes. That way you'll know whether the old gasket is still stuck on the engine.
If you lift the car a little bit (to be able to reach under for the filter), make SURE you do something safe. NOT a jack...
When you take the old filter off, wipe off the surface where it's gasket goes. That way you'll know whether the old gasket is still stuck on the engine.
08-25-2004, 07:39 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (EuRoBrO)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EuRoBrO »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn you do it right huh? I just slap that filter on with some lube on the seal and hand tighten and then replace drain bolt with 10 year old washer and never had a problem. Then again one day I could. Better to do things right though.
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I figure if your going to do it then why not do it right. I heard of people stripping the oil pan from never replacing the crush washer. It's rare but a possibility.
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I figure if your going to do it then why not do it right. I heard of people stripping the oil pan from never replacing the crush washer. It's rare but a possibility.
08-25-2004, 07:43 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (JimBlake)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newhondaowner29 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for your quick reply!</TD></TR></TABLE>
No problem.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who said anything about air tools? A torque wrench takes your same sockets. It simply measures how tight, so you don't overtighten the drain plug.
If you lift the car a little bit (to be able to reach under for the filter), make SURE you do something safe. NOT a jack...
When you take the old filter off, wipe off the surface where it's gasket goes. That way you'll know whether the old gasket is still stuck on the engine.
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Yeah, I don't own air tools either. Just a basically tool set is enough for an oil change.
I agree, always use jack stands when lifting a car and crawling under it. Or you could just use ramps.
Forgot to mention to wipe the filter mounting surface clean before installing the new filter, thanks.
No problem.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who said anything about air tools? A torque wrench takes your same sockets. It simply measures how tight, so you don't overtighten the drain plug.
If you lift the car a little bit (to be able to reach under for the filter), make SURE you do something safe. NOT a jack...
When you take the old filter off, wipe off the surface where it's gasket goes. That way you'll know whether the old gasket is still stuck on the engine.
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Yeah, I don't own air tools either. Just a basically tool set is enough for an oil change.
I agree, always use jack stands when lifting a car and crawling under it. Or you could just use ramps.
Forgot to mention to wipe the filter mounting surface clean before installing the new filter, thanks.
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08-27-2004, 03:56 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (TouringAccord)
Thanks again for the practical advice!
Another question perhaps I should start a new thread.
Well anyway here goes.
I got this car used, it has 122k miles on it, the gentlemen I bought it off of pretty much kept it in very good condition on the exterior and interior. The engine seems clean, liquids looked okay. Anyway he says he did all the maintenence himself and had no maintenence records.
I am thinking since it is an automatic I need to flush the coolant and replace the automatic transmission fluid.
My question is this do you think I can do this?
In the past I have changed the oil, flushed the coolant, changed the pvc valve, changed the air filter on a 2001 Dodge Neon ACR.
I know the two cars are worlds apart but do you think I can handle those tasks? or should I pay a certified mechanic to do it, and if so how much should it run to do those things?
Also the air is kinda week, it works but barely is there a way to fix this?
Another question perhaps I should start a new thread.
Well anyway here goes.
I got this car used, it has 122k miles on it, the gentlemen I bought it off of pretty much kept it in very good condition on the exterior and interior. The engine seems clean, liquids looked okay. Anyway he says he did all the maintenence himself and had no maintenence records.
I am thinking since it is an automatic I need to flush the coolant and replace the automatic transmission fluid.
My question is this do you think I can do this?
In the past I have changed the oil, flushed the coolant, changed the pvc valve, changed the air filter on a 2001 Dodge Neon ACR.
I know the two cars are worlds apart but do you think I can handle those tasks? or should I pay a certified mechanic to do it, and if so how much should it run to do those things?
Also the air is kinda week, it works but barely is there a way to fix this?
08-27-2004, 04:35 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (newhondaowner29)
I do almost all the work on my car. The only I don't do is alignment or tire balancing/mounting or body work. And I have every reciept from Honda, TASauto, Majestic Honda or where ever I bought parts from. So just because he did the maintenence himself doesn't mean he shouldn't have records.
I'm sure you can drain and refill the tanny yourself. I haven't donw it on an auto tranny but on a manual tranny you just remove the drain bolt and drain all the fluid, then replace the crush washer and reinstall the bolt, the remove the fill bolt and fill it with fluid until it comes out the fill hole. Not hard at all for a manual. Try searching the archives and you might find something on it for auto's. If not, you could always ask it here in the Accord forum, just make sure you search for it first. People don't like it when you ask a question thats been covered many times.
Also, you might want to consider changing that timing belt unless the previous owner has given you something showing it has been changed. You don't want to risk it and break that.
If your air is working but doesn't feel like it's getting cold enough then it might just need a recharge. If you can service your air conditioning system (I know some states like Wisconsin doesn't let you service your own air conditioning system) you can connect a service guage and see where the level is at. If it's low then you can add some to the system. Make sure when servicing your AC you use caution.
I'm sure you can drain and refill the tanny yourself. I haven't donw it on an auto tranny but on a manual tranny you just remove the drain bolt and drain all the fluid, then replace the crush washer and reinstall the bolt, the remove the fill bolt and fill it with fluid until it comes out the fill hole. Not hard at all for a manual. Try searching the archives and you might find something on it for auto's. If not, you could always ask it here in the Accord forum, just make sure you search for it first. People don't like it when you ask a question thats been covered many times.
Also, you might want to consider changing that timing belt unless the previous owner has given you something showing it has been changed. You don't want to risk it and break that.
If your air is working but doesn't feel like it's getting cold enough then it might just need a recharge. If you can service your air conditioning system (I know some states like Wisconsin doesn't let you service your own air conditioning system) you can connect a service guage and see where the level is at. If it's low then you can add some to the system. Make sure when servicing your AC you use caution.
08-27-2004, 06:39 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (TouringAccord)
Touring Accord,
Where in Michigan are you? I am in Canton. Perhaps I should hire you to do this stuff!
Where in Michigan are you? I am in Canton. Perhaps I should hire you to do this stuff!
08-27-2004, 07:18 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (newhondaowner29)
Just a few comments...
1. Buy a Haynes manual for you girlfriend's CRV, it'll tell you where the filter is (but it has to be somewhere with reasonably easy access). This will also tell you how to fix anything that goes wrong on it. Women like men who can do stuff like this (the "provider" thing). Also pick up a Haynes manual for your car, this will have a maintenance schedule in it (and how to do each of the items). One thing though, I've found the Haynes maintenance schedule to be more stringent than my Honda owner's manual's maintenance schedule, but it'll work.
2. Definately don't go under your car with just a jack. Some people use stands, personally I use ramps (much easier than using a jack and stands).
3. Just use a wrench on the drain plug. For the filter, if you can't get it off, stab it with a screwdriver and twist it off that way. Just hand tighten it when you put the new one on (but tighten it as much as you can, by hand).
4. They sell "high mileage" oil now, I don't know if it would be good for your car or not. I really don't consider a Honda with 114,000 miles to be "high mileage". Personally, I use Castrol GTX (~ $8 for 5 quarts from Wal-Mart).
1. Buy a Haynes manual for you girlfriend's CRV, it'll tell you where the filter is (but it has to be somewhere with reasonably easy access). This will also tell you how to fix anything that goes wrong on it. Women like men who can do stuff like this (the "provider" thing). Also pick up a Haynes manual for your car, this will have a maintenance schedule in it (and how to do each of the items). One thing though, I've found the Haynes maintenance schedule to be more stringent than my Honda owner's manual's maintenance schedule, but it'll work.
2. Definately don't go under your car with just a jack. Some people use stands, personally I use ramps (much easier than using a jack and stands).
3. Just use a wrench on the drain plug. For the filter, if you can't get it off, stab it with a screwdriver and twist it off that way. Just hand tighten it when you put the new one on (but tighten it as much as you can, by hand).
4. They sell "high mileage" oil now, I don't know if it would be good for your car or not. I really don't consider a Honda with 114,000 miles to be "high mileage". Personally, I use Castrol GTX (~ $8 for 5 quarts from Wal-Mart).
08-27-2004, 08:02 AM
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Re: New To H Accord, need advice on oil and filter change (newhondaowner29)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newhondaowner29 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Touring Accord,
Where in Michigan are you? I am in Canton. Perhaps I should hire you to do this stuff!</TD></TR></TABLE>
your in Canton, my cousin lives in Canton. He lives a few miles west of 275 off of Ford Rd. I think it's right by Canton Center or something like that.
Anyways, I live a little north of Detroit. If you need some help on something, it's not that far of a drive and I could visit my cousin, let me know and I can try and help you out.
Where in Michigan are you? I am in Canton. Perhaps I should hire you to do this stuff!
</TD></TR></TABLE>your in Canton, my cousin lives in Canton. He lives a few miles west of 275 off of Ford Rd. I think it's right by Canton Center or something like that.
Anyways, I live a little north of Detroit. If you need some help on something, it's not that far of a drive and I could visit my cousin, let me know and I can try and help you out.
08-27-2004, 08:10 AM
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Heat,
Thank-you for your reply, sounds real good!
Touring Accord,
Thanks man! Right now everything is copestetic (spelling).
However it is nice to know your around if I get stumbled!
Anything I should be doing for the car to get ready for winter?
Thank-you for your reply, sounds real good!
Touring Accord,
Thanks man! Right now everything is copestetic (spelling).
However it is nice to know your around if I get stumbled!
Anything I should be doing for the car to get ready for winter?
08-27-2004, 08:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Heat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1. Buy a Haynes manual for you girlfriend's CRV, it'll tell you where the filter is (but it has to be somewhere with reasonably easy access). This will also tell you how to fix anything that goes wrong on it. Women like men who can do stuff like this (the "provider" thing). Also pick up a Haynes manual for your car, this will have a maintenance schedule in it (and how to do each of the items). One thing though, I've found the Haynes maintenance schedule to be more stringent than my Honda owner's manual's maintenance schedule, but it'll work.
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I hate Haynes manuals. I haven't looked at one for an Accord but every other one I've looked at sucks. Chilton is the same way. They do give some good directions but sometimes pictures do help and those two manuals don't have too many. And the ones they do have might be from the gen before your car and not be the same but similar. After I bought my Helms manual I won't go with a chiltons or haynes. Granted, you do pay a lot more for the Helms but it's well worth it in the end. It's vehicle specific, has lots of pictures, goes more into depth on most things, covers more topics, ect. Like I said, it's well worth it especially if you plan on doing more than just fluid changes. Haynes and Chilton should do fine if you don't plan on doing much but if you do you'll find the Helms to be well worth it.
1. Buy a Haynes manual for you girlfriend's CRV, it'll tell you where the filter is (but it has to be somewhere with reasonably easy access). This will also tell you how to fix anything that goes wrong on it. Women like men who can do stuff like this (the "provider" thing). Also pick up a Haynes manual for your car, this will have a maintenance schedule in it (and how to do each of the items). One thing though, I've found the Haynes maintenance schedule to be more stringent than my Honda owner's manual's maintenance schedule, but it'll work.
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I hate Haynes manuals. I haven't looked at one for an Accord but every other one I've looked at sucks. Chilton is the same way. They do give some good directions but sometimes pictures do help and those two manuals don't have too many. And the ones they do have might be from the gen before your car and not be the same but similar. After I bought my Helms manual I won't go with a chiltons or haynes. Granted, you do pay a lot more for the Helms but it's well worth it in the end. It's vehicle specific, has lots of pictures, goes more into depth on most things, covers more topics, ect. Like I said, it's well worth it especially if you plan on doing more than just fluid changes. Haynes and Chilton should do fine if you don't plan on doing much but if you do you'll find the Helms to be well worth it.
08-27-2004, 08:14 AM
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Touring Accord,
Thanks man! Right now everything is copestetic (spelling).
However it is nice to know your around if I get stumbled!
Anything I should be doing for the car to get ready for winter?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No problem.
hmm...radiator flush? Windshield wipers? Make sure tires are rate for snow? Make sure heater works?
Touring Accord,
Thanks man! Right now everything is copestetic (spelling).
However it is nice to know your around if I get stumbled!
Anything I should be doing for the car to get ready for winter?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No problem.
hmm...radiator flush? Windshield wipers? Make sure tires are rate for snow? Make sure heater works?
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Winter preppin? Don't forget windshield washer fluid for freezing weather, make sure your battery is in good shape, use proper weight oil, brakes in good shape, windshield wipers also. Just the usual 
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