How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
02-16-2013, 08:39 AM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
I need one too for parts, I accidentally broke the piece that holds the o-ring on. If anyone knows where I can get that piece to buy, I dont seem to be able to find it.
02-16-2013, 08:59 AM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
You will need to find a trashed distributor from a J/Y or on ebay maybe. If I'm not mistaken you can pretty much use one from any H/F/B/D Honda distributor.
04-02-2013, 11:04 AM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
I replaced the outer o ring today. I noticed the shaft that the o ring is on had a little play in it. Would I be correct to assume the bearing is going bad? Thanks
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05-01-2013, 02:03 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
I recently came across this leak on my 97 Odyssey, which also happens to have a Hitachi distributor. I looked at the Youtube video that is in post #127, which was very helpful, but he indicates that is for distributors by TEC. I have also read that it is not the same process for taking apart a Hitachi distributor.
Can anyone please provide some input?
Can anyone please provide some input?
10-03-2013, 11:46 AM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
I recently came across this leak on my 97 Odyssey, which also happens to have a Hitachi distributor. I looked at the Youtube video that is in post #127, which was very helpful, but he indicates that is for distributors by TEC. I have also read that it is not the same process for taking apart a Hitachi distributor.
Can anyone please provide some input?
Can anyone please provide some input?
10-03-2013, 12:13 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
http://www.hondaaccordforum.com/foru...p-49435/page2/
*** F22B1 DISTRIBUTOR INNER SEAL CAN BE REPLACED !!! ***
Here is the seal you have to get:
honda distributor shaft seal for F22B1, F23A1, and F23A4. - $6.50 : Reds Auto Rehab, solutions for common automotive problems.
Quote from the web page:
"This a replacement distributor shaft seal for most Honda distributors which do not use the BH3888E seal. This seal fits the F22B1 engine with the Hitachi distributor #D4T92-04! This seal fits the F23A1, F23A4, OR F23A7 engines with the Hitachi distributor #D4T97-03. This seal also fits the Hitachi distributor #D4T94-04. This seal is Kok #3286. The seal dimensions are: 12.45mm X 22mm X 6mm."
The pin that is holding the cam fitting will come out, but it is pressed in very tight and requires a heavy hammer and a good punch. I used a 2 pound sledge and was able to get it out within a dozen or so very solid and carefully placed strikes. Once the pin is out, the cam fitting comes off, two screws on the inside of the distributor body and the shaft will tap out lightly with the inside bearing attached to it. Under the bearing is the seal.
Here is the seal you have to get:
honda distributor shaft seal for F22B1, F23A1, and F23A4. - $6.50 : Reds Auto Rehab, solutions for common automotive problems.
Quote from the web page:
"This a replacement distributor shaft seal for most Honda distributors which do not use the BH3888E seal. This seal fits the F22B1 engine with the Hitachi distributor #D4T92-04! This seal fits the F23A1, F23A4, OR F23A7 engines with the Hitachi distributor #D4T97-03. This seal also fits the Hitachi distributor #D4T94-04. This seal is Kok #3286. The seal dimensions are: 12.45mm X 22mm X 6mm."
The pin that is holding the cam fitting will come out, but it is pressed in very tight and requires a heavy hammer and a good punch. I used a 2 pound sledge and was able to get it out within a dozen or so very solid and carefully placed strikes. Once the pin is out, the cam fitting comes off, two screws on the inside of the distributor body and the shaft will tap out lightly with the inside bearing attached to it. Under the bearing is the seal.
10-13-2013, 05:17 AM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
I just want to add to the above post with the quote regarding the Hitachi distributor... I have a '95 Accord EX w/F22B1 (VTEC) and it has the Hitachi dizzy. When I ordered the internal seal it said it was compatible with my motor/distributor BUT when I went to install it, it became immediately clear to me that it DID'NT FIT RIGHT. Of course I forced it in anyway because I had destroyed the old one in the process of removing it AND it worked until I was able to get the correct part... So my addition to the post is this:
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF DIZZY YOU HAVE, THE TEC DIZZY HAS "TEC" STAMPED ON THE DIZZY HOUSING AND THE HITACHI'S DO NOT. SO DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF DIZZY YOU HAVE YOU'LL NEED TO BUY THE CORRECT PART.
TEC DISTRIBUTOR INTERNAL SEAL PART# = NOK BH3888 E0
HITACHI DISTRIBUTOR INTERNAL SEAL PART# = KOK 3286
A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH OF EITHER PART# BRINGS UP MULTIPLE VENDORS AND FORUM THREADS REGARDING THESE SEALS. AND YOU CAN PURCHASE EITHER ONE OF THEM FOR LESS THAN $10 SHIPPED.
ALSO THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE TWO DISTRIBUTORS REGARDING THEIR ASSEMBLY BUT THEY'RE SO INSIGNIFICANT THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PROCESS FOR BOTH. IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THE OP'S DIY TO REPLACE THE SEALS IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH NO PROBLEMS.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST; MARKING THE DIZZY HOUSING IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TIMING... VERY IMPORTANT. BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO MARK THE "NOTCH" WHICH IS THE PART THAT HAS THE SNAP-RING AROUND IT, WITH THE PIN THROUGH IT, ATTACHED TO THE SHAFT, ABOVE THE O-RING YOU'RE REPLACING...YEA THAT PART IS CALLED THE "NOTCH" AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THE YOU SOMEHOW MARK THE WAY THAT THIS PART IS ORIENTED ON THE SHAFT. THE WAY I DID IT WAS TO (WITH A SHARPIE) MARK FROM THE CENTER OF THE SHAFT OUTWARD ACROSS THE NOTCH. THE REASON I'M EXPLAINING THIS IS BECAUSE MANY PPL WERE HAVING ISSUES, AFTER REPLACING THE SEALS, WITH THE CAR NOT STARTING. 9 OUTTA 10 TIMES IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO ROTATE THAT NOTCH 180 DEGREES. I KNOW NUMEROUS PPL ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT BUT THEY WERE'NT VERY SPECIFIC SO I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR ON ALL OF THE POINTS I'VE MENTIONED.
HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS SOMEONE WHO'S DOING THIS DIY AND IF I CAN HELP ANYONE ANY FURTHER YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PM ME AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ASAP.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF DIZZY YOU HAVE, THE TEC DIZZY HAS "TEC" STAMPED ON THE DIZZY HOUSING AND THE HITACHI'S DO NOT. SO DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF DIZZY YOU HAVE YOU'LL NEED TO BUY THE CORRECT PART.
TEC DISTRIBUTOR INTERNAL SEAL PART# = NOK BH3888 E0
HITACHI DISTRIBUTOR INTERNAL SEAL PART# = KOK 3286
A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH OF EITHER PART# BRINGS UP MULTIPLE VENDORS AND FORUM THREADS REGARDING THESE SEALS. AND YOU CAN PURCHASE EITHER ONE OF THEM FOR LESS THAN $10 SHIPPED.
ALSO THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE TWO DISTRIBUTORS REGARDING THEIR ASSEMBLY BUT THEY'RE SO INSIGNIFICANT THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PROCESS FOR BOTH. IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THE OP'S DIY TO REPLACE THE SEALS IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH NO PROBLEMS.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST; MARKING THE DIZZY HOUSING IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TIMING... VERY IMPORTANT. BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO MARK THE "NOTCH" WHICH IS THE PART THAT HAS THE SNAP-RING AROUND IT, WITH THE PIN THROUGH IT, ATTACHED TO THE SHAFT, ABOVE THE O-RING YOU'RE REPLACING...YEA THAT PART IS CALLED THE "NOTCH" AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THE YOU SOMEHOW MARK THE WAY THAT THIS PART IS ORIENTED ON THE SHAFT. THE WAY I DID IT WAS TO (WITH A SHARPIE) MARK FROM THE CENTER OF THE SHAFT OUTWARD ACROSS THE NOTCH. THE REASON I'M EXPLAINING THIS IS BECAUSE MANY PPL WERE HAVING ISSUES, AFTER REPLACING THE SEALS, WITH THE CAR NOT STARTING. 9 OUTTA 10 TIMES IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO ROTATE THAT NOTCH 180 DEGREES. I KNOW NUMEROUS PPL ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT BUT THEY WERE'NT VERY SPECIFIC SO I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR ON ALL OF THE POINTS I'VE MENTIONED.
HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS SOMEONE WHO'S DOING THIS DIY AND IF I CAN HELP ANYONE ANY FURTHER YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PM ME AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ASAP.
12-03-2013, 03:29 PM
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On my '89, there is a line etched into the face of the fork close to the edge. This should point to (and be parallel to) a groove on the bottom of the distributor casing. With the rotor pointing roughly in the direction of plug terminal #1 (going to plug #1) the retaining pin will be right on or very close to the hole in the shaft. Insert the pin and attach the retaining ring, natch, and it's good.
Obviously, if rotor is 180 degrees out of position, the engine won't run.
12-03-2013, 10:19 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
All you have to do is physically turn the rotor to match it up with camshaft before putting the distributor onto the head. It's really that simple. It's offset deliberately(you will see by looking at it that it's not symmetrical)so that you can only put it on one way. If you really really wanted to, you could jam it in 180 degrees off but it really takes a lot of effort. If you can't just simply slip it on without jamming it you're putting it on 180 degrees out. Just take the rotor and turn it.
12-03-2013, 10:25 PM
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I just want to add to the above post with the quote regarding the Hitachi distributor... I have a '95 Accord EX w/F22B1 (VTEC) and it has the Hitachi dizzy. When I ordered the internal seal it said it was compatible with my motor/distributor BUT when I went to install it, it became immediately clear to me that it DID'NT FIT RIGHT. Of course I forced it in anyway because I had destroyed the old one in the process of removing it AND it worked until I was able to get the correct part... So my addition to the post is this:
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF DIZZY YOU HAVE, THE TEC DIZZY HAS "TEC" STAMPED ON THE DIZZY HOUSING AND THE HITACHI'S DO NOT. SO DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF DIZZY YOU HAVE YOU'LL NEED TO BUY THE CORRECT PART.
TEC DISTRIBUTOR INTERNAL SEAL PART# = NOK BH3888 E0
HITACHI DISTRIBUTOR INTERNAL SEAL PART# = KOK 3286
A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH OF EITHER PART# BRINGS UP MULTIPLE VENDORS AND FORUM THREADS REGARDING THESE SEALS. AND YOU CAN PURCHASE EITHER ONE OF THEM FOR LESS THAN $10 SHIPPED.
ALSO THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE TWO DISTRIBUTORS REGARDING THEIR ASSEMBLY BUT THEY'RE SO INSIGNIFICANT THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PROCESS FOR BOTH. IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THE OP'S DIY TO REPLACE THE SEALS IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH NO PROBLEMS.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST; MARKING THE DIZZY HOUSING IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TIMING... VERY IMPORTANT. BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO MARK THE "NOTCH" WHICH IS THE PART THAT HAS THE SNAP-RING AROUND IT, WITH THE PIN THROUGH IT, ATTACHED TO THE SHAFT, ABOVE THE O-RING YOU'RE REPLACING...YEA THAT PART IS CALLED THE "NOTCH" AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THE YOU SOMEHOW MARK THE WAY THAT THIS PART IS ORIENTED ON THE SHAFT. THE WAY I DID IT WAS TO (WITH A SHARPIE) MARK FROM THE CENTER OF THE SHAFT OUTWARD ACROSS THE NOTCH. THE REASON I'M EXPLAINING THIS IS BECAUSE MANY PPL WERE HAVING ISSUES, AFTER REPLACING THE SEALS, WITH THE CAR NOT STARTING. 9 OUTTA 10 TIMES IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO ROTATE THAT NOTCH 180 DEGREES. I KNOW NUMEROUS PPL ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT BUT THEY WERE'NT VERY SPECIFIC SO I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR ON ALL OF THE POINTS I'VE MENTIONED.
HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS SOMEONE WHO'S DOING THIS DIY AND IF I CAN HELP ANYONE ANY FURTHER YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PM ME AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ASAP.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF DIZZY YOU HAVE, THE TEC DIZZY HAS "TEC" STAMPED ON THE DIZZY HOUSING AND THE HITACHI'S DO NOT. SO DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF DIZZY YOU HAVE YOU'LL NEED TO BUY THE CORRECT PART.
TEC DISTRIBUTOR INTERNAL SEAL PART# = NOK BH3888 E0
HITACHI DISTRIBUTOR INTERNAL SEAL PART# = KOK 3286
A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH OF EITHER PART# BRINGS UP MULTIPLE VENDORS AND FORUM THREADS REGARDING THESE SEALS. AND YOU CAN PURCHASE EITHER ONE OF THEM FOR LESS THAN $10 SHIPPED.
ALSO THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE TWO DISTRIBUTORS REGARDING THEIR ASSEMBLY BUT THEY'RE SO INSIGNIFICANT THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PROCESS FOR BOTH. IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THE OP'S DIY TO REPLACE THE SEALS IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH NO PROBLEMS.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST; MARKING THE DIZZY HOUSING IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TIMING... VERY IMPORTANT. BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO MARK THE "NOTCH" WHICH IS THE PART THAT HAS THE SNAP-RING AROUND IT, WITH THE PIN THROUGH IT, ATTACHED TO THE SHAFT, ABOVE THE O-RING YOU'RE REPLACING...YEA THAT PART IS CALLED THE "NOTCH" AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THE YOU SOMEHOW MARK THE WAY THAT THIS PART IS ORIENTED ON THE SHAFT. THE WAY I DID IT WAS TO (WITH A SHARPIE) MARK FROM THE CENTER OF THE SHAFT OUTWARD ACROSS THE NOTCH. THE REASON I'M EXPLAINING THIS IS BECAUSE MANY PPL WERE HAVING ISSUES, AFTER REPLACING THE SEALS, WITH THE CAR NOT STARTING. 9 OUTTA 10 TIMES IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO ROTATE THAT NOTCH 180 DEGREES. I KNOW NUMEROUS PPL ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT BUT THEY WERE'NT VERY SPECIFIC SO I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR ON ALL OF THE POINTS I'VE MENTIONED.
HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS SOMEONE WHO'S DOING THIS DIY AND IF I CAN HELP ANYONE ANY FURTHER YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PM ME AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ASAP.
"This seal does NOT fit Honda Accord V6 models and mid 90s Honda Accord EX 4-cyl models,
does NOT fit vehicles which were equipped with a "Hitachi" distributor
12-08-2013, 08:48 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
Most places will actually say it doesn't fit the Hitachi distributor in the listing.
"This seal does NOT fit Honda Accord V6 models and mid 90s Honda Accord EX 4-cyl models,
does NOT fit vehicles which were equipped with a "Hitachi" distributor
Amazon.com: Honda Civic Acura Integra Distributor Seal and O ring 2 Piece KIT OEM Made in Japan: Automotive
"This seal does NOT fit Honda Accord V6 models and mid 90s Honda Accord EX 4-cyl models,
does NOT fit vehicles which were equipped with a "Hitachi" distributor
Amazon.com: Honda Civic Acura Integra Distributor Seal and O ring 2 Piece KIT OEM Made in Japan: Automotive
He has internal seals for both types of distributors used in most Honda vehicles. He was great to work with. He accepted my personal check. He sent my parts once the check cleared the bank. The price was reasonable and the shipping was timely. I received an email upon receipt of my order and also when the parts shipped.
I hope this helps.
12-08-2013, 09:19 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
I found the seal for Hitachi Distributors (1997 Accord EX Vtec) at Red's Auto Rehab.http://www.redsautorehab.com/index.p...38s8f9hgim5mc0
He has internal seals for both types of distributors used in most Honda vehicles. He was great to work with. He accepted my personal check. He sent my parts once the check cleared the bank. The price was reasonable and the shipping was timely. I received an email upon receipt of my order and also when the parts shipped.
I hope this helps.
He has internal seals for both types of distributors used in most Honda vehicles. He was great to work with. He accepted my personal check. He sent my parts once the check cleared the bank. The price was reasonable and the shipping was timely. I received an email upon receipt of my order and also when the parts shipped.
I hope this helps.
I actually just ordered the same seal as you on Ebay (from the same guy you bought it from), hopefully I get it soon so I can replace my old seal so I won't have any more leaks from my dizzy!
12-09-2013, 04:33 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
How are you doing? i'll like to know if this matter of having a oil leak can cause the engine to misfire or struggle around 2k RPM and them drive normal After That RPM? Pls Help me My car it's doing that right Now !! Thank you Very Much For your Time!!
12-09-2013, 09:03 PM
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It's more likely you have an egr problem or an oxygen sensor problem. It helps to know what kind of car you have exactly.
12-11-2013, 09:43 AM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
I have a 90 accord ex 2.2 automatic let my brother change the o-ring mistake cause he put it 180 degrees off to make worse he didnt mark the timming i put it right went in with out any trouble but now sometimes my rpm jump up an down drove it turned off on drive is it just the timing or did something else mess up. PLEASE HELP
12-11-2013, 03:59 PM
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Check the internal distributor connections, if the ones going to the ignitor are loose it could cause your tach issues.
You do need to redo the ignition timing if you didn't mark the distributor when you took it off.
You do need to redo the ignition timing if you didn't mark the distributor when you took it off.
12-18-2013, 09:22 AM
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12-18-2013, 09:33 AM
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I got my car on time but now it makes a wierd noise when it shift gears n when its about to change gears my rpms start jumping between 2500 n 3000 rpm's and sometimes it picks up slow even if push more on the gas peddle
12-18-2013, 11:59 PM
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Did you take apart the distributor yet and check how the connections are ? You could have either a loose wire or you coulda damaged a wire putting it all back together.
Also, as I already said, you need to redo the ignition timing.
Also, as I already said, you need to redo the ignition timing.
04-18-2014, 04:01 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
bookmarked.
06-23-2014, 09:02 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (Internal Oil Leak)
Rockauto listing.
Bronze Bushing.
2.2;2.7
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # DG68 For Hitachi Distributor;Material: Bronze
w/ 0.6299 Inch Bore Top Hat Bushing; Hitachi Distributor $3.59
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # DG67 For Hitachi Distributor;Material: Bronze
w/ 0.627 Inch Straight Bore Bushing; Hitachi Distributor $4.52
Bronze Bushing.
2.2;2.7
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # DG68 For Hitachi Distributor;Material: Bronze
w/ 0.6299 Inch Bore Top Hat Bushing; Hitachi Distributor $3.59
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # DG67 For Hitachi Distributor;Material: Bronze
w/ 0.627 Inch Straight Bore Bushing; Hitachi Distributor $4.52
12-07-2014, 06:38 PM
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Re: How-To: Replace Internal Seal of Distributor (TouringAccord)
Sorry I missed this new thread and kept posting on the old one... 
Anyway, I used the previous write up and replaced the O-ring. The pictures really helped! Thank you.
However, I could not remove the distributor because the electrical connectors did not want to detach. I did press the tab and pulled hard on the casing... no luck. I stopped short of using vice-grip to pull them apart. Any suggestions?
Anyway, I used the previous write up and replaced the O-ring. The pictures really helped! Thank you.
However, I could not remove the distributor because the electrical connectors did not want to detach. I did press the tab and pulled hard on the casing... no luck. I stopped short of using vice-grip to pull them apart. Any suggestions?