Honda slips on cold start
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Honda slips on cold start
Hey guys i have a 98 Honda Accord EX 4 cyl ELUV V tech motor 2.3 liter when i start the car in the morning the car sometimes lags on shifting and it acts like the tranny is slipping but after a lil heavy driving the transmision shifts smooth through all the gears with ease the car has 116k and its an automatic transmission i need help since i commute a lot
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
sounds like your transmission is going to crap out on you.
I would change the tranny fluid or @ least pull out the tranny dipstick and sniff for a burnt odor, if so flush and re-fill.
If i am wrong please correct me fellow members
I would change the tranny fluid or @ least pull out the tranny dipstick and sniff for a burnt odor, if so flush and re-fill.
If i am wrong please correct me fellow members
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
check your trans fluid level ... if its not low then that trans is toast ... do not change or flush your fluid that will make your trans worse ... all you can do is get it rebuilt or get a remanufactured one ...
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
I have tried Lucas trans treatment. That stuff helps out. Just make sure that you take a little out of your fluid, as the treatment is about a quart I believe. So the best bet, change the fluid, and use that fluid with the Lucas treatment. It helps to unstick the valves in the valvebody. And yes do not flush, it can destroy all the seals built up over time in the trans.
The trans may not necessarily be toast if it is not low or high. It is just going to be worn. The treatment can help, but it will not fix the problem. The problem lies in the fact that one of the following are happening, sticking valves in the valvebody, your seals around the servo pistons are actually hardened, making the piston harder to push down, or the clutches in the clutch packs have had the friction material wear down and is slipping against the steel plates.
Is it slipping in all gears when cold? Or just a certain set? Like 1-2,2-3, etc.
The trans may not necessarily be toast if it is not low or high. It is just going to be worn. The treatment can help, but it will not fix the problem. The problem lies in the fact that one of the following are happening, sticking valves in the valvebody, your seals around the servo pistons are actually hardened, making the piston harder to push down, or the clutches in the clutch packs have had the friction material wear down and is slipping against the steel plates.
Is it slipping in all gears when cold? Or just a certain set? Like 1-2,2-3, etc.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
tell u the truth it has new transmission fluid level is perfect its not slipping through all the gears just the first one the other ones are ok i thought it could have been spark plug problems or a throttle body problem.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
Kinda hard to decipher your post. I am assuming, you are saying, that you have a new tranny, correct? If you have a warranty bring it back.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
i dont have a new tranny i have new transmission fluid same Honda transmission the level on my fluid is were its supposed to be and there is no odor.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
Ok, well the good thing about the no odor is it is not completely toasted. Take out your trans dipstick and put it on a white towel or paper towel so you can see the fluid that you put on there. Make sure it is solid pinkish. If you see any pepper looking flakes, than that is friction material. If not, I would personally say it is your servo seals. The seals are just worn out and getting hardened. They should be nice and feel like rubber, but what may be happening is over night when everything in your trans cools off, the servo seals are hardening back up. Hence the slip. And most likely, the winter season will make this worse as it will be colder. It is possible though it could be the valves are sticking and just to be sure, I would use that Lucas trans treatment with the fluid change I mentioned above.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
I am having the same issue and have the fix. I also have a 98 Honda Accord EX 4 cyl 2.3, etc. and have taken to Aamco.
Even after a rebuild same issue occured.
-First there are two things to cause it to appear slipping when cold (colder the worse it gets) and drive fine when warm.
-First check the Linear Solinoid and if that does not correct then it is most likey to require a Valve body rebuild. The Linear solinoid appeared to correct the issue for about two weeks the first time, changed again and lasted a couple days. Third still the same.
-Rebuilt the valve body due to a valve sticking and that corrected the issue.
-They did try to unstick the valve first with heat and cold treament.
I hope that helps.
Even after a rebuild same issue occured.
-First there are two things to cause it to appear slipping when cold (colder the worse it gets) and drive fine when warm.
-First check the Linear Solinoid and if that does not correct then it is most likey to require a Valve body rebuild. The Linear solinoid appeared to correct the issue for about two weeks the first time, changed again and lasted a couple days. Third still the same.
-Rebuilt the valve body due to a valve sticking and that corrected the issue.
-They did try to unstick the valve first with heat and cold treament.
I hope that helps.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
I have tried Lucas trans treatment. That stuff helps out. Just make sure that you take a little out of your fluid, as the treatment is about a quart I believe. So the best bet, change the fluid, and use that fluid with the Lucas treatment. It helps to unstick the valves in the valvebody. And yes do not flush, it can destroy all the seals built up over time in the trans.
The trans may not necessarily be toast if it is not low or high. It is just going to be worn. The treatment can help, but it will not fix the problem. The problem lies in the fact that one of the following are happening, sticking valves in the valvebody, your seals around the servo pistons are actually hardened, making the piston harder to push down, or the clutches in the clutch packs have had the friction material wear down and is slipping against the steel plates.
Is it slipping in all gears when cold? Or just a certain set? Like 1-2,2-3, etc.
The trans may not necessarily be toast if it is not low or high. It is just going to be worn. The treatment can help, but it will not fix the problem. The problem lies in the fact that one of the following are happening, sticking valves in the valvebody, your seals around the servo pistons are actually hardened, making the piston harder to push down, or the clutches in the clutch packs have had the friction material wear down and is slipping against the steel plates.
Is it slipping in all gears when cold? Or just a certain set? Like 1-2,2-3, etc.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
If the D4 lamp is blinking there is a stored code.
Get an OBDII code reaser, scan for codes, record, post back here.
Not all codes will set the D4/CEL lamp to come on with the 98+ cars.
Get an OBDII code reaser, scan for codes, record, post back here.
Not all codes will set the D4/CEL lamp to come on with the 98+ cars.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
What's your idea MIke if there is no code flashing but my car is doing the same? Between 3 and 4 and sometimes between 4 and 5, there is a lull (kind of revs up) then shifts. I put a used trans in about 5 years ago and this jus started doing this. Again it's only when it's cold.
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
What's your idea MIke if there is no code flashing but my car is doing the same? Between 3 and 4 and sometimes between 4 and 5, there is a lull (kind of revs up) then shifts. I put a used trans in about 5 years ago and this just started doing this. Again it's only when it's cold.
5Spd ATs were in the later V6 models 03-05 or so.
Verify the fluid is full and in good condition. Preferably red, dark red is fine, brown, black or burnt smelling needs to be changed ASAP.
I would suspect, if it is an older/high mileage unit, the trans has just drained down and the delay is simply a combination of worn parts and seals not sealing. Could also be varnish buildup, add some Trans-Tune or other AT hydraulic cleaner to the system to see if that aids in shift quality.
Try charging every gear circuit prior to driving off to see if that improves the delay feeling. Place the trans in every gear before driving off. Better if you just wait for the engine/trans to warm up a bit especially on cold mornings.
Check the side cover and look for the pressure switches and the magnetic pickups, verify the switches are not leaking and the pickups are clean(requires removal).
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Re: Honda slips on cold start
Me thinks you are in the wrong forum.
5Spd ATs were in the later V6 models 03-05 or so.
Verify the fluid is full and in good condition. Preferably red, dark red is fine, brown, black or burnt smelling needs to be changed ASAP.
I would suspect, if it is an older/high mileage unit, the trans has just drained down and the delay is simply a combination of worn parts and seals not sealing. Could also be varnish buildup, add some Trans-Tune or other AT hydraulic cleaner to the system to see if that aids in shift quality.
Try charging every gear circuit prior to driving off to see if that improves the delay feeling. Place the trans in every gear before driving off. Better if you just wait for the engine/trans to warm up a bit especially on cold mornings.
Check the side cover and look for the pressure switches and the magnetic pickups, verify the switches are not leaking and the pickups are clean(requires removal).
5Spd ATs were in the later V6 models 03-05 or so.
Verify the fluid is full and in good condition. Preferably red, dark red is fine, brown, black or burnt smelling needs to be changed ASAP.
I would suspect, if it is an older/high mileage unit, the trans has just drained down and the delay is simply a combination of worn parts and seals not sealing. Could also be varnish buildup, add some Trans-Tune or other AT hydraulic cleaner to the system to see if that aids in shift quality.
Try charging every gear circuit prior to driving off to see if that improves the delay feeling. Place the trans in every gear before driving off. Better if you just wait for the engine/trans to warm up a bit especially on cold mornings.
Check the side cover and look for the pressure switches and the magnetic pickups, verify the switches are not leaking and the pickups are clean(requires removal).
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