kevinm1981

What makes the F20B better then the H22?

v4lu3s

it is more rev friendly. thats about it.
whatmakes an h22a better?
LOTS more parts availability since it is an engine that was in the US market.
more displacement.
they are very similar engines in msot respects though.

The_Todd

I have heard the f20 is a destroked h22, thats the easiest way to describe it. Also the f20 is obd2.

cd555

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VRDrvr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have heard the f20 is a destroked h22, thats the easiest way to describe it. Also the f20 is obd2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So are some h22's

v4lu3s

teh f20b has less stroke, but it also has an 85mm bore too and afaik it doesnt ahve FRM sleeves either, it alos uses a differetn injector as well.

TOAB

not sure but i heard the f20b has like no midrange power and needs to rev up like a b series to make its power

Nick H

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TOAB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not sure but i heard the f20b has like no midrange power and needs to rev up like a b series to make its power</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah it does, i believe redline is 8200 on the f20b's...

kevinm1981

won't most aftermarket parts for the h22 fit the F20B? and isn't the tranny a hydro not cable like the H series?

TOAB

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kevinm1981 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">won't most aftermarket parts for the h22 fit the F20B? and isn't the tranny a hydro not cable like the H series?</TD></TR></TABLE>nope...

v4lu3s

cams and valve springs, maybe manifolds will fit between h22a and f20b....
and both engines are hydraulic clutches with cable shifters.
honda has not done cable clutches since 1993.

kevinm1981

How much do F20B's cost? Aren't they like 3000 compared to 2000 for the H22?

sponger1054

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So are some h22's </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea some are...but **** obd2

TOAB

for a complete swap ive seen them go for over 4k... not sure though i stopped shopping around for prices

vasponger

some parts do fit from the h22, header, cam gears, pulleys. not sure about internals though.

grandel

The parts in the head of the H22B are interchangeable with the f20B DOHC.
The JDM F20B actually comes in DOHC and SOHC.
The DOHC redlines at 7400-7600.
The Accords (Torneos) in my part of the world carry these engines.

Nick H

the part numbers are the same for the blocks as well, which suggests that the f20b merely uses a different rod/crank setup and slightly smaller pistons...

v4lu3s

the f20b block is not an FRM block and has iron sleeves so the part # cannot be the same....

kevinm1981

So I should buy a obd1 closed deck JDM H22A?

fizzbob7

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by grandel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The parts in the head of the H22B are interchangeable with the f20B DOHC.
The JDM F20B actually comes in DOHC and SOHC.
The DOHC redlines at 7400-7600.
The Accords (Torneos) in my part of the world carry these engines.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and the automatic f20b's make 180hp vs. the manual's 200hp......what's an h22b out of?

never seen anything about that