f22 stroker?
02-24-2012, 08:46 PM
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f22 stroker?
hello what is the cheapest way to stroke out one of these little " f " motors? using a h22 stroker kit? or not possable cause of the h22s floating pins
02-24-2012, 09:18 PM
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The cheaper H22 stoker kit is normally a 95mm F22/h23 crank. Considering that hte stock H22 stroke is only 90.7mm. The cheap 95mm H22 stroker kit it's not going to be of much use in an F series block.
Any of the stroker kits that I have seen for the F22 are usually 100mm + and cost around $2500 - $3000 for the crank rods and pistons. There are also the 55mm main 100mm BC H22 stroker kits. They are in the $3000 - $3500 range. However, as mentioned, they use the 55mm H22 main journals and the F22 is a 50mm main. That won't work unless you have the main journals bored and line honed out to 55mm.
Any of the stroker kits that I have seen for the F22 are usually 100mm + and cost around $2500 - $3000 for the crank rods and pistons. There are also the 55mm main 100mm BC H22 stroker kits. They are in the $3000 - $3500 range. However, as mentioned, they use the 55mm H22 main journals and the F22 is a 50mm main. That won't work unless you have the main journals bored and line honed out to 55mm.
02-24-2012, 10:51 PM
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Re: f22 stroker?
The cheaper H22 stoker kit is normally a 95mm F22/h23 crank. Considering that hte stock H22 stroke is only 90.7mm. The cheap 95mm H22 stroker kit it's not going to be of much use in an F series block.
Any of the stroker kits that I have seen for the F22 are usually 100mm + and cost around $2500 - $3000 for the crank rods and pistons. There are also the 55mm main 100mm BC H22 stroker kits. They are in the $3000 - $3500 range. However, as mentioned, they use the 55mm H22 main journals and the F22 is a 50mm main. That won't work unless you have the main journals bored and line honed out to 55mm.
Any of the stroker kits that I have seen for the F22 are usually 100mm + and cost around $2500 - $3000 for the crank rods and pistons. There are also the 55mm main 100mm BC H22 stroker kits. They are in the $3000 - $3500 range. However, as mentioned, they use the 55mm H22 main journals and the F22 is a 50mm main. That won't work unless you have the main journals bored and line honed out to 55mm.
02-25-2012, 07:08 AM
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No I didn't. I am using the stock 95mm stroke in conjunction with a set of H22 rods and 89mm pistons with a 29mm compression height. It's actually only 2,364cc. In Honda numbers thats equal to a 2.4L...lol 
02-25-2012, 09:43 AM
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Re: f22 stroker?
ok well i know you have dartin sleeves to run a fat *** bore! so with that said i dont want to buy sleeves just yet leaves me with the cast iron sleeves that i know will not reach a 89mm bore so what is the maximum you can bore the stock sleeves out to? what all has to be done to use h series rods in a f block? i know it has somthing to do with the h's wristpin setup but dont it put the piston over the deck of the head on tdc? inform me some in a pm if you dont mind ghost
02-25-2012, 10:44 AM
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The cheaper H22 stoker kit is normally a 95mm F22/h23 crank. Considering that hte stock H22 stroke is only 90.7mm. The cheap 95mm H22 stroker kit it's not going to be of much use in an F series block.
Any of the stroker kits that I have seen for the F22 are usually 100mm + and cost around $2500 - $3000 for the crank rods and pistons. There are also the 55mm main 100mm BC H22 stroker kits. They are in the $3000 - $3500 range. However, as mentioned, they use the 55mm H22 main journals and the F22 is a 50mm main. That won't work unless you have the main journals bored and line honed out to 55mm.
Any of the stroker kits that I have seen for the F22 are usually 100mm + and cost around $2500 - $3000 for the crank rods and pistons. There are also the 55mm main 100mm BC H22 stroker kits. They are in the $3000 - $3500 range. However, as mentioned, they use the 55mm H22 main journals and the F22 is a 50mm main. That won't work unless you have the main journals bored and line honed out to 55mm.
02-25-2012, 01:19 PM
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To run H22 rods on an F22 95mm crank. You would need to run a set of aftermarket F22A pistons with a 29mm compression height and floating wrist pins. That will put the piston even with the deck. As for max bore of the OEM cylinders. I would stick to 86mm to keep it safe.
So what's your purpose for running a single cam? To keep it cheap and make it as slow as possible? If that is your goal, it is very easy to come buy.... You could save all your money, keep it stock, and enjoy! That's just my opinion, every one has an opinion, and they are entitled to it.
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25-3500!!?? **** THAT ****!! That would defeat the purpose of me even running the single slam lolz
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02-25-2012, 02:25 PM
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Re: f22 stroker?
will the f22a pistons be compatible with the oem sleeves? im sure my cylinder walls are in baddd shape. is there any gain from the A1 cam in the B2 head?
02-25-2012, 02:51 PM
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The USDM F22A & B pistons are the same design and are compatible with any of the SOHC f series iron sleeves. Aftermarket SOHC F22 pistons are the same as well. If your cylinder walls are in bad shape you should definitely take them out to 86mm. Or at least take them out to 85.5mm.
Actually I have measured both the A6 and the B2 cam and they are very similar. so I would stick with the B2 cam vs the A1. Should send the A1 out for a regrind.
Actually I have measured both the A6 and the B2 cam and they are very similar. so I would stick with the B2 cam vs the A1. Should send the A1 out for a regrind.
02-26-2012, 12:01 PM
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So what's your purpose for running a single cam? To keep it cheap and make it as slow as possible? If that is your goal, it is very easy to come buy.... You could save all your money, keep it stock, and enjoy! That's just my opinion, every one has an opinion, and they are entitled to it.
02-26-2012, 12:50 PM
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That's too bad. If only you would make use of the potential that you are getting for $100. The fact that they can walk a DOHC for 1/2 the price, boosted or N/A should be compelling enough. A well planned $2500 F build would be enough to get 300+whp. Probably couldn't put a 200whp DOHC in your car for that price.
02-27-2012, 07:18 PM
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That's too bad. If only you would make use of the potential that you are getting for $100. The fact that they can walk a DOHC for 1/2 the price, boosted or N/A should be compelling enough. A well planned $2500 F build would be enough to get 300+whp. Probably couldn't put a 200whp DOHC in your car for that price.
All I'm saying is I'm c h e a p ! ! ! I'm currenyly doing a antibudget mini-me turbo. My next Honda project will be a low budget+high boost F22 Civic@@
EDIT, I'm a member at dso and I
m a big fan of these little 'unpopular' or 'untrendy' sohc's!! here is my build thread. yes, i'm a Honda n00b
kingyeddi's 'anti-budget' eco/cheapo turbo build
02-28-2012, 04:10 AM
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Oh OK I get ya now!
It sounded more like you were just here slagging on people for putting money into their SOHC F series Accords. Or making a post for something to do out of shear boredom. The fact that you don't have an F series or an Accord kind of made it seem that way......
Now you have to explain to me what 'anti-budget' means. I think I may be misunderstanding it's true meaning as well.
Anti - being apposed to something.
Budget - A systematic plan for the expenditure of a usually fixed resource, such as money or time, during a given period.
Usually doing a "budget" build is known to be the cheap way of going about doing an engine build. Therefore an anti-budget build would seem to be more along the lines of say, a build where optimum power and/or reliability is the true goal. Like in a drag race engine or endurance race engine, where you have to pay to play.
Anywho, it's nice to see someone else giving the thumbs up to a SOHC budget build.
Good luck with it.
It sounded more like you were just here slagging on people for putting money into their SOHC F series Accords. Or making a post for something to do out of shear boredom. The fact that you don't have an F series or an Accord kind of made it seem that way......
Now you have to explain to me what 'anti-budget' means. I think I may be misunderstanding it's true meaning as well.
Anti - being apposed to something.
Budget - A systematic plan for the expenditure of a usually fixed resource, such as money or time, during a given period.
Usually doing a "budget" build is known to be the cheap way of going about doing an engine build. Therefore an anti-budget build would seem to be more along the lines of say, a build where optimum power and/or reliability is the true goal. Like in a drag race engine or endurance race engine, where you have to pay to play.
Anywho, it's nice to see someone else giving the thumbs up to a SOHC budget build.
Good luck with it.
02-28-2012, 11:44 AM
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Re: f22 stroker?
Oh OK I get ya now!
It sounded more like you were just here slagging on people for putting money into their SOHC F series Accords. Or making a post for something to do out of shear boredom. The fact that you don't have an F series or an Accord kind of made it seem that way......
Now you have to explain to me what 'anti-budget' means. I think I may be misunderstanding it's true meaning as well.
Anti - being apposed to something.
Budget - A systematic plan for the expenditure of a usually fixed resource, such as money or time, during a given period.
Usually doing a "budget" build is known to be the cheap way of going about doing an engine build. Therefore an anti-budget build would seem to be more along the lines of say, a build where optimum power and/or reliability is the true goal. Like in a drag race engine or endurance race engine, where you have to pay to play.
Anywho, it's nice to see someone else giving the thumbs up to a SOHC budget build.
Good luck with it.
It sounded more like you were just here slagging on people for putting money into their SOHC F series Accords. Or making a post for something to do out of shear boredom. The fact that you don't have an F series or an Accord kind of made it seem that way......
Now you have to explain to me what 'anti-budget' means. I think I may be misunderstanding it's true meaning as well.
Anti - being apposed to something.
Budget - A systematic plan for the expenditure of a usually fixed resource, such as money or time, during a given period.
Usually doing a "budget" build is known to be the cheap way of going about doing an engine build. Therefore an anti-budget build would seem to be more along the lines of say, a build where optimum power and/or reliability is the true goal. Like in a drag race engine or endurance race engine, where you have to pay to play.
Anywho, it's nice to see someone else giving the thumbs up to a SOHC budget build.
Good luck with it.
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