Turbowa

I know this is going to sound bold but I"ve been reading all the posts for some time now. Most of witch is useful info. But there are to may what if's or I wish they made this. So hear it is for all who want to know and see, (If you live close). A 2 1/2 yr. project completed and running. Just need to break in and stap to a dyno. Fully built F23 99" accord coupe. With built automatic transmissoin, for drag purposes. With the exception of cams, spring, and retainers which will come the next winter when there ready. This thing is build all out, turbo and NOS. CP pistons, Crower rods, L.A. sleeves, even SS manley valves. Unfortunatly no digital camora to tack pic's. But if you live around Col. OH, more then welcome to come see and contact me for info and tack pics. Once said and done on street tires it should run low12's to high 11's. Now I'll leave this up for disscution.

stinker504

Awesome, I have friends near there that will drive and take pics for you. I'll contact them about your ride. Can't wait to see pics. ohhhh, and what did you do with the auto tranny??

Turbowa

That's cool e-mail me when they want to meet and I can give them a cell#. As for the tranny Level ten shift kit, all new bearings, and Level ten torque converter. Phantom grip w/ upgraded spring. Drivers side half shaft replaced with 00" 5spd. inter. shaft and and shorter axle. Still hoping it holds, if it doesn't just re-build another,lol.

PKSPX

I live in cleveland/akron my buddy lives near OSU. I think i know you though, is your car red? With momo racing seats?

Crono139

Dude, a 6th Gen Accord running 12s? That's badass.

You must post pics ASAP.

Legendaryyaj

Are you gonna be at the meet in Col, OH on march 20th..if u are i'll drive my *** down to see it. I really wanna see this.

Turbowa

Yes it's red with MOMO race seats. Where did you see the car?

Turbowa

Keep me posted as to the time and the place of the meet. I work till noon on sat. but I should be able to go if its close.

Nick M

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I'm gonna have to raise the BS flag here. You have to post some timeslips, the days of bench racing on the internet are long gone.

Ive never seen a honda into the 11s on street tires. I know it is done with drag radials on hatchbacks and crx's that regularly run 9.90's-11.0 on slicks

but in an automatic? what did you do about the horrendous gear ratios in the automatic?

do you have any dyno sheets?

You cant just show up and say "hey im going to run in the 11s with an automatic accord" and not post pics, specs and dyno sheets

Because those are about as far fetched as any ideas ive seen around.

Turbowa

Apparently you have a problem reading. I didn't say it ran 12's or is going to run 12's. I said it SHOULD run 12's-11's. That is the goal hear.
If you would have also read closer, I just got it running and am breaking it in and the I have to dyno it. As for the tranny. Have you ever had one apart or even looked inside of one. I build this transmission my self and will do it again. The honda auto's are acutally build very well. its the original bearings that fail. Witch have already been replaced and up graded. Including the clutch packs and torque converter.
Now for is it possible on street tires you answered your owen question. civics do it in the 9-10 sec. range on drag radials, witch are still considered street tires. Hints the DOT approval on them. Now if you would like as soon as I get dyno sheets and time slips I will post them and even invite you to the track and dyno so you can see with you owen eyes.
Don't hate me just cause I did what you can't

twkdCD595

I would like to see some pics also... dont see many fast 6th gens.

what shot you planning to run on the bottle, how much boost you running, whats your fuel management?

ForceThis!

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seriously tho, what axles are you running? I'm using the level 4's from DSS.

stinker504

I was trying to build my auto 6gen but ran out of funds so I stoped after the turbo install. I'm guessing he changed his IAC to a two wire setup and running hondata with an OBD1 ECU. That was my only choice when I was looking into everything.

Turbowa

Bottle, when we start to spray 75 increasing to 150.
20psi of boost w/o spray. 15psi w/ spray. 12-15 on the street.
Fuel managment: Greddy E-manage, with all the goodies and software.
Axles: stock for now then we will see. Maybe drive shaft shop after that.

Legendaryyaj

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Why cant he make claims about his car, Im sure as hell you make some about yours and when the Subie was coming over they threw out numbers just to get us all excited and you wet your pants about it. Quit hating man. If he turns out to be a phony we will all eventually find out.

I dont see why u putting this guy down, jus cuz u've never seen it done b4 u gotta hate. Of course there are doubts but if this is true it would be really cool. When will this board ever respect each other and stop calling BS on everything that's never been seen or done before. Everyone doubted 9sec FWD and look at where it is now.

Turbowa

Thanks man, at least it looks like some people have my back. But seriusly, if any of you have a digital camera you are more then welcom to take pic's. Or I will see if I can borrow the one from work over the weekend.

ForceThis!

if you really want to put this **** to rest (personally I don't care, if thats what you say you have, then kudos) go to the store, get a Kodak "digital" disposable, epxose it, go get your disc and go to http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com, host and post. done.

ForceThis!

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unless you have already purchased the e-manage (quick ebay seller, even used) look into the EMS. really.

Turbowa

I have already purchased the e-manage and personally I like it better then the EMS. I've used it before and as far a stand alone they are just over played out. Not everybody in there brother needs one. That and if you talk to AEM they will tell you that with the grade logic for the auto tranny there are some problems. That is why they recommend it for manual tranny's only. Trust me I asked.

Crono139

It's alright, man. I believe you.

Paul said he has seen your car before, and that is good enough for me. Now just get some pics up on here, then there won't be any doubt.

-RedneckDave-

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbowa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. I've used it before and as far a stand alone they are just over played out. </TD></TR></TABLE> Dude how can you say that stand alones are played out? People that have really high horsepower setups are all running them and the fact that stand alones are used in pretty much every race car that has fuel injection.

Accordcentral

Well i think if it take 20 psi to get a moderately heavy 4 dr sedan anywhere near 12's with a 2.2 f series motors some things have gone seriously wrong. LEts look at numbers here for a minute.

a 4th- 6th gen accord wieghs around 2800-3200lbs.

at those wieghts youd need around 200-240WHP to run 12's. if you cant get a f series engine to put out 240 whp with 15-16 psi of boost without cams and head work then something has gone wrong.

The automatic would most likely make the car alot faster at the strip. those horriable gear ratios are perfect for the large flat TQ genrally produced by a turbo engine. Plus the engine will be under constant load reducing the need to spool the turbo up and down and loose the boost build. Not to mention luanching the vehicle will be tons and tons simpler.

i think most of the nay sayers havent even looked at the real math involved.

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And im in souteast michigan so id love to go check this car out come spring time.

Legendaryyaj

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You bascally supported his statement of saying how they are played out. It's not like he's saying its played out as a bad thing man. He just wants a DIFFERENT route to go.

Quit bashing already and lets all see what he has to offer. Unlike most of you guys, I'm actually excited to see this guy's car.

Crono139

Don't forget, he is running the laughing gas as well.

Because it's an auto, he can spray from the start without any worries. Traction would be on the only problem. Best thing would be to launch it regularly, get traction, let the car shift into 2nd, then turn on the N20.

The F23 is a great motor, just very underrated. It should easy be able to withstand the 20psi that is being talked about above, but only with the right internals. From what I know, Paul has ran 12lbs on his stock motor on numerous occasions. That motor is still running fine.

Now's he got a new car, and a new motor. Put the black one back to stock, and has his cousin's white one. That thing is going to be sick, just as long he doesn't blow up anything. Already destroyed the motor in his dad's boat. That was a while ago, though.

-RedneckDave-

Ok you need to wait and look back at what is said, and notice that is the first time i have posted in this thread and i am not bashing him. I just want to understand how having a better way to tune is played out and how going a different route is better besides money issue which is always there. I have been here long enough to see a lot of threads like this start and they end up being BS but i don't doubt or bash until it is necessary. I would love to see an accord that can put down the times he is claiming but there is no proof but i will wait to see what the out come is.