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Old 10-03-2012, 02:23 PM   #26
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there are TONS of turbo Volvos over 200k miles. I don't think it is a coincidence that both the Volvo T5 and Mitsu 4g63 have both been used for about two decades without much issues. Designing an engine for boost > boosting an NA engine after tinkering with fuel delivery etc.
Friend in HS had an '87 Volvo wagon with 190k on it. Boosted that stock turbo up to 19psi, cracked into the 14s (not bad in '00), survived. Those things are solid.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:28 PM   #27
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Yeah a friend bought a 240 from the '80s as her first car, used it through the late '00s at least. They seem like extremely durable powertrains surrounded by average durability through the rest of the vehicle.
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My '96 Supra TT had 215k miles when I sold it. Only thing I ever had issues with bushings wearing out (normal) and a harmonic balancer that seperated from the crank pulley (normal for the MKIV). 60k miles of that was single turbo. 18-22psi on average.

Other than that? Brake jobs and oil changes, wish I had held onto that car.
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the only reason turbo cars are known for failing.....

is because we double the damn hp of what the motor should be handling
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If you want to get technical any car that wasn't dsigned to be turbocharged is undergoing stresses the motor was not intended to see.

The fact that any of them last as long as they do is a testament to good tuning and not really just the fact that it is turbocharged.
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Seems like iron blocks help the car to survive the testament of boosting on stock applications.
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The fact that any of them last as long as they do is a testament to good tuning and not really just the fact that it is turbocharged.
well yeah, thats just because you are adding power to it.

Not saying if you add a turbo to a factory car, it's going to last longer.

I'm saying if you want 300hp out of your 200hp motor, a turbo is safer than revving
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Turbo Diesels around your areas must be less redneck than mine. I doubt many around here last longer than 200k when they want to lope and try to drown everyone in smoke.

"HAHA! I smoked you out... hey, why did my turbo just turn into a grenade..."
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Turbos need rebuilding just like any other wear item on a vehicle.

We're @ 104k on our WRX. No issues whatsoever. Just oil changes, brake pads/rotors, and tires.

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My step father has owned numerous turbo diesel Mercedes(1980's) ..one of them was at over 500k miles and another was close to 400k. Now regular gasoline motors turbo'd is a different story.
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My S4 is getting close to 180k miles and shes still going strong. Stock turbos and everything
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I sold my 2005 Evo with 160,000 miles on the clock. Was plenty reliable, no issues at all. Making 360whp on E85 for the last 80,000 miles of its life. That thing was bulletproof.
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well yeah, thats just because you are adding power to it.

Not saying if you add a turbo to a factory car, it's going to last longer.

I'm saying if you want 300hp out of your 200hp motor, a turbo is cheaper than revving
FTFY

Tolerances are tolerances.

Any old NA motor MIGHT be over-engineered but not THAT much.
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Why is it that turbo diesels seem to last longer than turbo gasoline cars? I can't imagine the rubber seals or rings be much different.
Not sure if anyone else responded, but diesel vehicles in general are much more "solid". The entire premise of a diesel is to ignite the air/fuel with compression alone (vs. a spark). The block is essentially bulletproof. Timing is ridiculouly high in a diesel engine as well. I'm pretty sure that's one of the main reasons big rigs use them, and they last into the millions of miles.

A "normal" vehicle with a turbo has to get a lot of things right for things to operate smoothly. A diesel, not so much. A little too much boost here and there, a little too much fuel/air, and you're still fine.

I'm obviously oversimplifying it too.
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Right.

The only real weak link in a turbo-diesel is the turbo and generally speaking only if boost is raised above and beyond what anyone would consider reasonable.
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I sold my 2005 Evo with 160,000 miles on the clock. Was plenty reliable, no issues at all. Making 360whp on E85 for the last 80,000 miles of its life. That thing was bulletproof.

How did the rest of the car holdup?
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E85 on 13:1 compression and some mad timing.
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Ironically the only thing that E85 ended up being useful for, is the exact opposite of what it was intended for: ensuring the safest and best unnecessary expenditure of gasoline.
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I have a 82 mercedes diesel that has been daily driven all it's life, haven't really done much except for replace water pumps every decade. Odometer stopped working around 1996 at 205k.
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My S4 is getting close to 180k miles and shes still going strong. Stock turbos and everything
Scary, mine hit maybe 80,000 and everything on that car was going wrong.
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When talking about turbo diesels, a lot of you guys use semi truck engines. What about VW TDI for example? So let's compare passenger car engines to passenger car engines.

Are TDI engines built more hardy vs. other turbos?
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