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Old 06-30-2007, 10:41 PM   #1
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Comer Wilson hasn't had to show his ID to buy beer in a while. Maybe it's the 66-year-old man's long white beard.

Starting Sunday, gray hair won't be good enough. Wilson and everyone else will be required to show identification before buying beer in Tennessee stores _ no matter how old the buyer appears.

"It's the stupidest law I ever heard of," Wilson said. "You can see I'm over 21."

Tennessee is the first state to make universal carding mandatory, says the National Alcohol Beverage Control Association. However, the law does not apply to beer sales in bars and restaurants, and it does not cover wine and liquor.

Supporters say it keeps grocery store and convenience store clerks from having to guess a customer's age. Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen said it's a good way to address the problems of underage drinking.

And the 63-year-old governor said he personally won't mind the extra effort to buy beer.

"I'll be very pleased when I'm carded, and in my mind I'll just imagine it's because I look so young," he said.

Rich Foge, executive director of the Tennessee Malt Beverage Association, said he expects there might be some initial resistance from the beer-buying public.

"But once people live with it for a month or two, it's going to go fine," he said. "It gets routine after a while."

Jarron Springer, president of the Tennessee Grocers and Convenience Store Association, said he understands the law "may seem a little odd" to people who are obviously older than 21, but he said it's necessary to make sure no one slips through the cracks.

"If we're going to hold clerks accountable for their actions, then there's no room for discretion," Springer said. "It's either all or nothing."

The blanket requirement makes it easier for stores to comply, said Steve Schmidt, spokesman for the National Alcohol Beverage Control Association

"There's no need to judge whether someone looks 21, 25 or 30," he said. "It's a set, consistent standard across the entire state."

Richard Rollins, who owns a convenience store in Nashville, is already using a computerized scanner to check everyone's driver's licenses when they buy beer. "We just say we're trying to keep our beer permit, and this is the safest way," Rollins said.

But it has stopped Jeff Campbell from shopping at Rollins' market.

"I don't mind them asking for my ID, but they don't need my driver's license number," said Campbell, 43. "I'm just buying a six-pack. All they need to know is how old I am."

Rollins said scanning licenses has proved beneficial in other ways, such as catching criminals.

When one customer tried to make a purchase using a counterfeit bill, Rollins said police were able to track him down because the receipt from the scanner showed his name and license number _ and his address.

The new law, which expires after a year unless the Legislature decides to renew it, also creates a voluntary training program for vendors and their employees. Participating businesses would face lower fines if found guilty of selling beer to a minor, and their beer permits cannot be revoked on a first offense.

However, they face fines of up to $1,000 for each underage sale and they lose their status if they commit two violations in a 12-month period. Another violation could mean suspension or revocation of a license, and fine of up to $2,500.

Noncertified vendors can face those penalties on a first offense.

Marylee Booth, executive director of the Tennessee Oil Marketers Association, which represents gas stations and convenience stores, said the intention is not to hurt vendors, but to help them protect minors.

"We're doing everything we can to keep minors from buying beer," Booth said. "This is just one more tool we want to try."</TD></TR></TABLE>

So I guess even a guy in a walker is gonna have to show ID now huh?
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nothing new to see here, move along.... I am in MN and every single store had ID'd me for as long as I can remember
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nothing new to see here, move along.... I am in MN and every single store had ID'd me for as long as I can remember
but this is now a state law. Before it was a judgment call on the clerk at the store. It doesn't matter if you are rolling in a hover round with some saggy boobies, you have to be ID'd
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nothing new to see here, move along.... I am in MN and every single store had ID'd me for as long as I can remember
weird because on my 21st birthday i NEVER showed ID, my friend just said it's his 21st can we get some shots

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but this is now a state law. Before it was a judgment call on the clerk at the store. It doesn't matter if you are rolling in a hover round with some saggy boobies, you have to be ID'd
state law in california too. I dont see the millions of people here crying. I'm pretty sure TN will be fine with this new law change. tennessee must be one weird state haha.
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"I'll be very pleased when I'm carded, and in my mind I'll just imagine it's because I look so young," he said.
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state law in california too. I dont see the millions of people here crying. I'm pretty sure TN will be fine with this new law change. tennessee must be one weird state haha.
BS. I always see Old People just get the beer and go. people that actually card an old guy's are ******* ******s IMO
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It's laws like these that dramatically improve the quality of life for every citizen. I say card everybody. Take their picture and fingerprints. Hell, put them in jail overnight, just to be safe. For everything. Even milk.

Why not?
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state law in california too. I dont see the millions of people here crying. I'm pretty sure TN will be fine with this new law change. tennessee must be one weird state haha.
actualy, TN is the first state to actaully implement this law, CA does not have it yet.
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well, I'd rather deal with TN's weird ID law than Texas'... There you have to shoe a Texas ID or no sale. NO out of state licenses.
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well, I'd rather deal with TN's weird ID law than Texas'... There you have to shoe a Texas ID or no sale. NO out of state licenses.
shoe meaning scan it?
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Blame Hillary and her socialist views.

I will always look younger than 21, and hopefully that continues into my 30s.
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I will always look younger than 21, and hopefully that continues into my 30s.
How the expletive does a senator from NY have ANYTHING to do with with legislation passed in Tennessee?
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well, I'd rather deal with TN's weird ID law than Texas'... There you have to shoe a Texas ID or no sale. NO out of state licenses.
Do you have a source for this law? I find it very hard to believe that a state that has many tourist destinations as TX does would have a law like this. So when I go there later this month, I won't be able to buy a six-pack, or any beer in any establishment? Yeah, right. TX is fucked up, but not that fucked up. Think of the millions that would be lost during spring break if outsiders couldn't buy beer.

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That is so odd, and kinda silly.

Just give them a carry permit it has your bday... they never card you again Click the image to open in full size.
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Just give them a carry permit it has your bday... they never card you again Click the image to open in full size.
LOL License to carry beer? ******* sweet. Anywhere I want Click the image to open in full size.
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LOL License to carry beer? ******* sweet. Anywhere I want Click the image to open in full size.
hahah I wish Click the image to open in full size.

I meant my CWP or CCP depeding on state.
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I meant my CWP or CCP depeding on state.
Naw I knew that, I was hoping for the best Click the image to open in full size. If there was a license to carry beer we wouldn't need guns. We'd all be drunk. Click the image to open in full size. Especially me and Cory with some Stella. Click the image to open in full size.
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That sucks. I never carry my ID unless I'm driving or going to a club.

My local bars and stores know me so I don't get carded.
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Naw I knew that, I was hoping for the best Click the image to open in full size. If there was a license to carry beer we wouldn't need guns. We'd all be drunk. Click the image to open in full size. Especially me and Cory with some Stella. Click the image to open in full size.
hahah mostly beer = world peace other then those fighter drunks Click the image to open in full size.

I almost picked up a half keg of stella the other day ever so yummy, but self employed = poor lol!
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Naw I knew that, I was hoping for the best Click the image to open in full size. If there was a license to carry beer we wouldn't need guns. We'd all be drunk. Click the image to open in full size. Especially me and Cory with some Stella. Click the image to open in full size.
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Do you have a source for this law? I find it very hard to believe that a state that has many tourist destinations as TX does would have a law like this. So when I go there later this month, I won't be able to buy a six-pack, or any beer in any establishment? Yeah, right. TX is fucked up, but not that fucked up. Think of the millions that would be lost during spring break if outsiders couldn't buy beer.

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I can offer personal experience to verify his claim. I went to Texas for the Rolling Stones concerts in El Paso and Austin. I was 23 years old at the time and could not buy a 18-pack of beer. They would not except my Washington state ID.

I went to four extablishments before some bum on the street told me of a Asian-mart or whatever the hell it was a few blocks away. I went in there and the non-English speaking cashier sold me a 12-pack for the same price as everywhere else had 18s. Dumbest ******* experience ever.
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doesnt bother me any, its just showing your license
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