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Old 01-03-2011, 10:40 AM   #1
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40885536...ss-us_business

Facebook apparently is worth 50 billion as a non publicly traded company. Although being worth more than ebay means nothing since ebay turned to complete ****. Phenomenal that a social networking site that can generate so much investor interest, despite providing no tangible contributions.
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That's pretty damn crazy, all things considered.
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I am amazed at how companies with very little on their balance sheets can be worth so much.

What assets does FB have other than a few servers and a little code?
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What assets does FB have other than a few servers and a little code?
marketing information on millions of subscribers?
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I don't know why how information on other people could be worth so much. I have never once since the dawn of the internet clicked on a google Ad in my email or a pop up advertisement.
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I am amazed at how companies with very little on their balance sheets can be worth so much.

What assets does FB have other than a few servers and a little code?
Advertisement possiblities? There are millions of people that log in everyday. That's a lot of traffic for advertisements.
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Facebook doesn't share your personal information though, right, right?
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Advertisement possiblities? There are millions of people that log in everyday. That's a lot of traffic for advertisements.
That should mean the next in line by value are all **** sites though. lol
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Facebook doesn't share your personal information though, right, right?
They don't. You do.

These 50 employees or so of facebook are probably drinking beer on the job and having all the work done for them when simpletons can't stop blabbing about their personal information in their profile and status updates that should normally be kept a secret.
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They don't. You do.
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that and there are a lot of subliminal ways to advertise to people.

you simply say you "like" something and then little sidebar ads of what you like are there.

kinda like the header ads here on HT. I have google open in another window and typed in tires...swapped back over here and refreshed...bam! tire rack ad header lol.
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They don't. You do.

These 50 employees or so of facebook are probably drinking beer on the job and having all the work done for them when simpletons can't stop blabbing about their personal information in their profile and status updates that should normally be kept a secret.
Those people were put on Earth for the amusement of people who can still breathe with their mouths closed.

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that and there are a lot of subliminal ways to advertise to people.

you simply say you "like" something and then little sidebar ads of what you like are there.

kinda like the header ads here on HT. I have google open in another window and typed in tires...swapped back over here and refreshed...bam! tire rack ad header lol.
Okay, I get that.

How much is the largest publicly traded advertising firm I wonder? Would be an interesting comparison.
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is IB considered an advertising firm?

I mean they buy popular forums and then stick all their ad stuff in there right?
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I have never once since the dawn of the internet clicked on a google Ad in my email or a pop up advertisement.
While a lot generic internet ads do expect you to click on them, you don't have to click on an ad to make it effective. I'm sure most of us can say that we've never ran out to buy a Toyota just after seeing a commercial for one. Not all ads have an urgent call to action - they are there to make an impression and build consumer confidence.
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I pay $300/month for a little ad in trulia.com that comes up in my zip code, if I get one deal a year through it I costs nothing

there are two seperate spots you can advertise for each zip code, thats $600/month per zip code

there are 43,000 zip codes in the US, figure maybe half of them are advertised

thats 154 million in annual revenue, just from real estate agents, they have a few other ads too

Facebook has 692 times as much traffic as trulia.com
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Fck, I never use it.
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I pay $300/month for a little ad in trulia.com that comes up in my zip code, if I get one deal a year through it I costs nothing

there are two seperate spots you can advertise for each zip code, thats $600/month per zip code

there are 43,000 zip codes in the US, figure maybe half of them are advertised

thats 154 million in annual revenue, just from real estate agents, they have a few other ads too

Facebook has 692 times as much traffic as trulia.com
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I am amazed at how companies with very little on their balance sheets can be worth so much.

What assets does FB have other than a few servers and a little code?
That's what always got me too, but remember that people assign value to things that might not really have any. Even with all their users, having the most clicks on the internet, ads, and etc., I can't imagine how it'd be worth $50B. It's crazy how such a simple idea, that many companies have done before, has grown and absolutely smashed its competition to make it the absolute standard in social networking.
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and it will probably be worth half that in 5yrs...all social networking sites have a peak then a steady decline as people get bored with it. i see the same happening to facebook in 5yrs. i bet fox is kicking itself for paying out the *** for myspace when its useless now lol
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Facebook certainly does share personal information with marketers. Lots of companies work with Facebook's architecture including mine. Certain things are with-held, but it simply costs more money on the vendor side to get it.

Besides, I'm sure you know you don't really have to "click" or "submit" anything to be in a marketing prospect database, right? I'm sure if 100 of you gave me your name/address, I could find 85% of you in the database I have.
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I successfully deleted all my profile information, pictures, friends, etc, and then removed my facebook account as part of my 2011 new years resolution.

4uck social networking. It steals minutes from your hours, hours from your days, days from your months, and years from your life! I'm done and it feels great!
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Damn. lol

Not a bad idea really but I'm hardly ever on it.

Now if I could do this with H-T........
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they are talking about a possible IPO i think in 2012?

I agree i just dont see anyway its worth 50 billion. im sure they have a ton of equipment, they have to to keep the site operating. There is no telling how many "servers" and such they are running. They are in more than 40 countries now i heard as well. Facebook just launched in the UK.

But even then, how much revenue can they possibly generate through ad's? Zuckerburg always wanted it to be ad free but im sure he has little to no say in that now.

I sense this becoming a huge bubble to burst as time moves on. Seems like a typical .com company being over valued. With Goldman backing it now, something isnt right IMO. Especially when they are purposefully trying to keep Facebooks balance sheet in the dark.
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the only thing im sure of is Mark Z. is a rich rich man
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They won't be able to do that if they offer have an IPO and go public.

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