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Old 03-22-2012, 11:32 AM   #1
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So I'm a tiny bit worried...

Just got an email from the Facebook Security Team (yes, it's a legit email) saying that my account was recently logged into from a computer or mobile device from a location I've never used before, and that my account has been temporarily locked.

Okay, whatever. So I log in via computer and it asks me to verify a few things. Okay whatever. Then it says that it saw access from a mobile device from Herenthout, Belgium. Woah.

I did some basic Google searching, but could only find some random phishing article from CNN back in 2009. I'm a bit worried since I generally use the same password for everything, including bank accounts.

Anyone else encounter this type of notification before?
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Nope but I'll go out on a limb and say that it's time to change your password
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Nope. You got haxored. It was probably Muffin Man.
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I also use the same password for everything.

And yes, I'm in IT, and yes I know better. I just don't like password managers, and I have far too many logins to make a list or try to remember.
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You use the same password?

Change them all now.
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Sign off facebook forever. Problem solved.
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Change your PW, use different PW for different kind of accounts. I have 5 different PWs that i use personally and a few at work, and if you use made up words with numbers and symbols, I think it's harder to crack.
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I also use the same password for everything.

And yes, I'm in IT, and yes I know better. I just don't like password managers, and I have far too many logins to make a list or try to remember.
Same here. It's just such a pain to have to remember so many. Maybe I'll add a few characters and numbers to the end of what I already have.

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Change your PW, use different PW for different kind of accounts. I have 5 different PWs that i use personally and a few at work, and if you use made up words with numbers and symbols, I think it's harder to crack.
Well, it's not really the special characters that make a difference, it's the length. It's better to have a password like "computer" vs "#$n0fI".
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So I'm a tiny bit worried...

Just got an email from the Facebook Security Team (yes, it's a legit email) saying that my account was recently logged into from a computer or mobile device from a location I've never used before, and that my account has been temporarily locked.

Okay, whatever. So I log in via computer and it asks me to verify a few things. Okay whatever. Then it says that it saw access from a mobile device from Herenthout, Belgium. Woah.

I did some basic Google searching, but could only find some random phishing article from CNN back in 2009. I'm a bit worried since I generally use the same password for everything, including bank accounts.

Anyone else encounter this type of notification before?


Btw a decent password should be at least 12 alphanumerics long. It's not that hard really. Think of a mnemonic to help you remember.
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I guess I'll just repeat everyone and say change your passwords on everything
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1qaz2wsx!QAZ@WSX

Great password for the lazy's...
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You guys wouldn't believe how many people at my work actually have "Password123" as their password. I **** you not, every time I have to look one up it blows my ****ing mind. It's almost like I work with a bunch of retarded people.
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1qaz2wsx!QAZ@WSX

Great password for the lazy's...
I think a good password would be something like this.

Your 3 favorite teachers in K-12

6th grade Jane Smith
8th grade Michael Doe
12th grade John Williams

then assign a number to the grade and initial to the teacher

06 J S
08 M D
12 J W

apply some case sensitive variation

06 J s
08 M d
12 J w

put it together you can have

06Js08Md12Jw

mix it up some more you can have

J06sM08dJ12w

or

J0s6M0d8J1w2

its ok to write down your password

Doesn't have to be a teacher or grade. As long as you can associate 3 common objects by name and a numerical value, you can do something similar to creating a complex hard to guess pw.
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Great password for the lazy's...
Password cracking programs NEVER try to crack frequently used patterns :/

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I think a good password would be something like this.

Your favorite teachers in K-12

6th grade Jane Smith
8th grade Michael Doe
12th grade John Williams

then assign a number to the grade and initial to the teacher

06 J S
08 M D
12 J W

apply some case sensitive variation

06 J s
08 M d
12 J w

put it together you can have

06Js08Md12Jw

mix it up some more you can have

J06sM08dJ12w
This is all too much. Youre asking folks to combine too many elements. Most folks stumble coming up with an eight character passoerd .


Do what we do at work; write out a 15 random characters on a sheet of paper and commit it to memory. One of the passwords I use stands for nothing. After typing it 664 times, I cant forget it - "h2B4./U8Lo\"vSn". Pick any combination of characters (uppercase, lower case, numeric, special) and practice, practice. Its not a pattern, just a string of unrelated chracters. I've been using this for over 2 years, and add a 1 to it as needed. I havent been haxored, but may consider threats now that the secret is out.
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I think a good password would be something like this.

Your 3 favorite teachers in K-12

6th grade Jane Smith
8th grade Michael Doe
12th grade John Williams

then assign a number to the grade and initial to the teacher

06 J S
08 M D
12 J W

apply some case sensitive variation

06 J s
08 M d
12 J w

put it together you can have

06Js08Md12Jw

mix it up some more you can have

J06sM08dJ12w

its ok to write down your password
I would rather just smash the keyboard with my palm to generate random letters, and just click on "I forgot my password" every single time.
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All of this password talk is really pointless... Shamoo's password was gotten by one of two ways.

#1 It was phished. Regardless of how many characters or sequence, they would have gotten your password either way.

#2 It was brute forced. In this case, the longer the password the better, but still brute forcing 12 digits is a walk in the park for someone serious. Again, wouldn't have made a difference.
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Fine, mix it up a bit.
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All of this password talk is really pointless... Shamoo's password was gotten by one of two ways.

#1 It was phished. Regardless of how many characters or sequence, they would have gotten your password either way.

#2 It was brute forced. In this case, the longer the password the better, but still brute forcing 12 digits is a walk in the park for someone serious. Again, wouldn't have made a difference.
Phished is when they emulate some login page (like Facebook) and capture my login info, right? I'm pretty careful with that, but I mean it is a possibility. Same with the brute force.

I think I'm okay though (although I'll check when I get home). My banks generally protect me, plus my email password is the only thing that's different. Everything else is like my gas bill login, my property tax login, etc. Nothing with my SS#.
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All of this password talk is really pointless... Shamoo's password was gotten by one of two ways.

#1 It was phished. Regardless of how many characters or sequence, they would have gotten your password either way.

#2 It was brute forced. In this case, the longer the password the better, but still brute forcing 12 digits is a walk in the park for someone serious. Again, wouldn't have made a difference.
I think you can evade keyloggers by clicking out of the pw box and hitting random keys in between typing your password. I don't know if there are keyloggers or programs to record mouse motion or the entire monitor output for that matter too. There probably are.
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I use several 16-character length passwords that have upper/lower case letters, numbers, symbols.
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I think you can evade keyloggers by clicking out of the pw box and hitting random keys in between typing your password. I don't know if there are keyloggers or programs to record mouse motion or the entire monitor output for that matter too. There probably are.
Well, there's a bunch of ways to deceive keyloggers. The first step though, is knowing it's there.


@ Shamoo, yes, Phishing is where you "login" on a fake login page. They're gotten pretty good lately, have you been asked for your facebook password at all in the last month or so besides normal logins?
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The thing I hate is that some passwords require you to use special symbols, and then other don't even allow you to do it. BS.
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@ Shamoo, yes, Phishing is where you "login" on a fake login page. They're gotten pretty good lately, have you been asked for your facebook password at all in the last month or so besides normal logins?
I have not, other than normal logins. I notice every couple of weeks, Facebook will "reset" and ask for my login info again, so I just put it in.

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Yes, makes me rage. That's the only reason I have a couple of passwords, which is basically the same, just without that character.
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