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Old 05-02-2012, 03:08 PM   #1
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Default Anyone hear deal with/in the business of vinyl car wraps?

I would like to wrap my car in white vinyl for $57. This is apparently possible, price-wise, as I've heard on the Internet and such.

http://www.lexjet.com/i-14021-LexJet...-SFLO5420.aspx

Is this vinyl crap? How hard is it to install? Any pointers for a first-time vinyl wrap attempt? Am I insane for trying this?

My main concern is bubbles. In my ricer days, my application of vinyl stickers and banners would result in bubbles. I know the pro shops used to apply these stickers to a wet surface, then squeeze the bubbles out or poke pinholes in the vinyl to let the air out. Is that how this works?

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Or maybe even this (Warsteiner style):
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Default Re: Anyone hear deal with/in the business of vinyl car wraps?

I'm not sure if your standard Oracl 531 vinyl would be the same as car wrap material.

I think the wrap stretches more and is easier to work with. Either way, wet application(couple drops of dish soap into a spray bottle of water) and a squeegee, is key.
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Very nice. We'll get Solbrothers one in rust.

How much do those cost.
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A friend of mine that stopped by last week started a business doing this. They do it for race team trailers so they have a huge plotter.

His answer would be buy 3M.

I'd call him, but he's a Tea Party freak and the battery on my mobile is dead.

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its applied like tint.


Clean the surface, apply dish soap/water mix to the film with adhesive (vinyl) and the surface and then slap it on, move it into place, and slowly squeegee outwards the water mix so the adhesive sticks.

You can also use the soap method to cut/size the vinyl before you take the backing off.

I don't think I'd ever do this myself, tint is hard enough, couldn't imagine a car body.
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I'm not sure if your standard Oracl 531 vinyl would be the same as car wrap material.

I think the wrap stretches more and is easier to work with. Either way, wet application(couple drops of dish soap into a spray bottle of water) and a squeegee, is key.
Is Oracl 531 some sort of industry standard?

This stuff is for the following, apparently:

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How close are you to Orange County and are you willing to pay to get it done by a professional?
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How close are you to Orange County and are you willing to pay to get it done by a professional?
I'm reasonably close (was just there yesterday), but the quotes I received were not cheap. $1,500 low end to $3,000 on the high. You can see where the $57 alternative (plus lots of beer, pizza and a weekend in a garage) would be preferred.
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I’ve never seen a gloss vinyl wrap on a car before… it’s usually a matte wrap for cars. Nonetheless, it’s going to be extremely difficult to wrap your car.
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Default Re: Anyone hear deal with/in the business of vinyl car wraps?

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Is Oracl 531 some sort of industry standard?

This stuff is for the following, apparently:
My bad, 651...but afaik, 651 is pretty much your generic, 7-10 year(outdoor) vinyl. 3M is awesome, like everything else. This is mainly used to decals and signs- it doesn't stretch much, so I'm not sure how well it would apply.
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My bad, 651...but afaik, 651 is pretty much your generic, 7-10 year(outdoor) vinyl. 3M is awesome, like everything else. This is mainly used to decals and signs- it doesn't stretch much, so I'm not sure how well it would apply.
Check out the video in that link if you have time. The guy stretches it pretty decently with his fist using a heat gun. Does the 3M stuff stretch further?
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Don Nguyen does all sorts of vinyl wraps and he's located around OC.

I'm not sure how much he would charge for labor but I know the material he uses are top-notch and he sells them at a good price. (I'm currently on the wait list for a gloss-black, mirror wrap for my car's roof).

Material for my car's roof was $40 + shipping. So material for you would be around ~$600. Not sure about installation costs but I'm sure he's reasonable since he gets hundreds of customers.

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Iíve never seen a gloss vinyl wrap on a car beforeÖ itís usually a matte wrap for cars. Nonetheless, itís going to be extremely difficult to wrap your car.
Here's a gloss white, apparently:
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This is apparently wrapped as well:
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Don Nguyen does all sorts of vinyl wraps and he's located around OC.

I'm not sure how much he would charge for labor but I know the material he uses is top-notch and he sells is at a good price. (I'm currently on the wait list for a gloss-black, mirror wrap for my car's roof).

Material for my car's roof was $40 + shipping. So material for you would be around ~$600.

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Do you know the thickness he uses in mils?
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How about a matte green instead?
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I know someone who does this. It's only marginally cheaper than having your car painted properly.

The bonus is that it preserves the pain underneath and going back to the original color is as easy as peeling off the vinyl.

Price is usually around one or two grand.
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How about a matte green instead?
You get me matte green for $57 and I'll do it just for the hell of it .
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Yeah, if you could do it yourself that’d be awesome; otherwise, I’d just spend a little more and get the entire car painted.
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Check out the video in that link if you have time. The guy stretches it pretty decently with his fist using a heat gun. Does the 3M stuff stretch further?
I've seen it done before, I'm just not exactly sure on material. My experience with Oracal 651 and 3M is strictly sign based for my business and for stickers here and there(I have a plotter).


You guys have to remember there is a LOT more benefit to a wrap- you're not disassembling the car, sanding, removing panels/lights/etc and you can easily go back to stock. It actually protects the underlying paint EXTREMELY well and is very durable! It's green, if that matters to the hippies
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I've seen it done before, I'm just not exactly sure on material. My experience with Oracal 651 and 3M is strictly sign based for my business and for stickers here and there(I have a plotter).


You guys have to remember there is a LOT more benefit to a wrap- you're not disassembling the car, sanding, removing panels/lights/etc and you can easily go back to stock. It actually protects the underlying paint EXTREMELY well and is very durable! It's green, if that matters to the hippies
This is why I want to do it. When the E30 M3 is the King of Barrett-Jackson, I can pull the wrap off and bam! I'm back to the original Diamondschwartz.
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Good lord that's inexpensive.

May have to try this out. :ponders:
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