danielm3

So far everything I have found online has been huge machines, like 20 feet by 30 feet, I am looking for something small, something with a cutting area of 3 or 4 feet by 3 or 4 feet. Anyone know of any out there? Thanks!

wantboost

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hope you have a large bank account

danielm3

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It's decent... I expect to spend about 50k, just can't find it.

snoot_works

For the record, we have a 6x12 Flow flying bridge machine.

Depending on your intended application, and how much research you've done I'd point you towards the smaller direct-drive Omax machines.

If you wanna chat, shoot me a PM.

Race Egr

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This guy is loaded

weiRtech

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omax has machines from 2x2 feet to 6x12. http://www.omax.com i don't have any waterjet experience myself. out of curiosity what would a machine around the size he is looking for sell for?

danielm3

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omax has machines from 2x2 feet to 6x12. http://www.omax.com i don't have any waterjet experience myself. out of curiosity what would a machine around the size he is looking for sell for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

150k for a 2 x 4 table, **** a little more than I though lol.

wantboost

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pricey, but if your client base is spot on, youll be making money in no time

89crxhf

I own a Omax 55100 and i think Omax's are some of the best out there. I love the direct drive pump. its so quiet compareed to an intensifier pump. IMO Omax has some pretty kick *** software. if you need more info on omax's PM me

Want2race

I want one so badly.. Too bad all I want it for is to cut counter tops out!

Howitt

I priced out a Omax in august 05 with a 4 x8 table with the tilting head and it was in the 170K range. I was planning on buying it but then I got robbed yet we figured we would pay it off in a little over 2 years.

You might consider contacting ward waterjet they have some smaller units in the 50k range I believe they have new and used

danielm3

How much do Laser cuters go for?

2kjettaguy

Trust me, it can't be done for 50k. You need at least 150k to get started. You will also need a water conditioner and it's in your best interests to get a garnet recycler.

Waterjet kicks *** and all, but it's a major mess, expensive to run, expensive to own, and expensive to maintain. You've got floods to deal with, tanks of garnet to shovel out, pumps to rebuild. Orifices need changing all the time unless you buy a diamond one.

Laser is expensive as well. Usually professional laser, plasma and water cutting machines are setup gantry style for cutting at least 4' x 8' plate so finding a small one is tough. They are out there, but expect to pay just as much for a small machine as a large one.

Howitt

you can easily do a submerged plasma for less than 50k more like 25k

danielm3

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Do you have a link to one? I couldn't find anything on google.

The Original Whitey

Are you looking for a 3 or 5 axis waterjet?

danielm3

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3 to 4 feet work area, not sure how many axis it would need to have... I am looking for something that will cut flanges and metal in general accurately.

crx12

Maybe you could find a company with a machine in good shape that is just upgrading to a larger table.

HiProfile

Although I don't know much about the machines themselves, it seems that waterjet prices (when paying for the parts to get made) tend to be the same if not more than cnc & laser. I've also not been too impressed with waterjets when cutting 1/4" steel and above. The edges tend to have an angle on them (fluid spreads out like any other spray nozzle), and you also have the possible issue of the medium being impregnated in the steel. Although they always seem to weld fine, I couldn't speek for very high quality tig work that needs to look perfect. Underwater plasma seems pretty sick too.


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The Original Whitey

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I should clear up some of this. Much of the waterjet problems you mentioned is a quality issue dealing with how a company uses the machine, not the machine itself.

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This is true however it greatly depends on how fast of a cut you make. we can maintain a Kerf width of .003" min using water and a Kerf width of .030" min using an abrasive jet.

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This is again a quality issue and my company would not release a product with material defect.

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We're talking about flanges for Honda's that people are welding industrial pipe to. We cut titanium flanges for aircraft, a waterjet can easily make quality flanges for manifolds.


although for cutting flanges a lazer is the way to go. Its alot faster at cutting metals. The advantages for a waterjet are:

-they can cut any material you throw at them
-No heat affected zones
-no microcracks

Here's my company if you want to see what a waterjet can do. http://www.hydrojet.com

danielm3

Check this thing out guys http://www.cncequipment.com !