Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"!
02-09-2007, 12:36 PM
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Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"!
Do any of you have an idea where to find info and parts to build an ultrasonic cleaner?
I have been pricing these units and for the size I need they run from 7k up!!!!!
I figure I can build the tank and use a mofdified pool/spa filter to circulate and even heat it, but I seem to be running into difficulty trying to locate the ultrasonic vibrators and frequency generators separately, unless you go through the complete unit manufacturers and then the price is once again skyhigh!
Anyone done this for cleaning finshed machine parts/degreasing?
I have been pricing these units and for the size I need they run from 7k up!!!!!
I figure I can build the tank and use a mofdified pool/spa filter to circulate and even heat it, but I seem to be running into difficulty trying to locate the ultrasonic vibrators and frequency generators separately, unless you go through the complete unit manufacturers and then the price is once again skyhigh!
Anyone done this for cleaning finshed machine parts/degreasing?
02-09-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"! (Super Chicken)
This is my cylinder head after ultrasonic cleaning. I got my father to do it, he told me he just left it in there for about half an hour.
It was the same colour as the gearbox (greenish overspray tinge) the brown smudges just fingerprints
Now I just need to do the rest!!
I would recommend it, everything comes up brand new, the machined parts come up bright bright silver and the cast stuff comes up like that white/silver above.
It was the same colour as the gearbox (greenish overspray tinge) the brown smudges just fingerprints
Now I just need to do the rest!!
I would recommend it, everything comes up brand new, the machined parts come up bright bright silver and the cast stuff comes up like that white/silver above.
02-10-2007, 05:01 AM
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"! (Super Chicken)
Ok so nice that you guys are discussing something totally unrelated, but can anyone point me in the right direction for a piezoelectric vibrator, ultrasonic field generator and etc. to build my own ultrasonic cleaner?
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"! (Super Chicken)
i can make one for under 10 bucks Use the dish washing powder i forget which kind it was... it removes rust so im sure it can clean grease
http://www.gomestic.com/Do-It-...14635
http://www.gomestic.com/Do-It-...14635
02-11-2007, 11:41 AM
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"! (smartass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smartass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i can make one for under 10 bucks Use the dish washing powder i forget which kind it was... it removes rust so im sure it can clean grease
http://www.gomestic.com/Do-It-...14635</TD></TR></TABLE>
not even close.
\/\/ No, its an electolysis machine. It converts rust into iron, but won't/can't touch grease.
Modified by sharkytm at 2:51 PM 2/11/2007
http://www.gomestic.com/Do-It-...14635</TD></TR></TABLE>
not even close.
\/\/ No, its an electolysis machine. It converts rust into iron, but won't/can't touch grease.
Modified by sharkytm at 2:51 PM 2/11/2007
02-11-2007, 03:46 PM
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"! (smartass)
Ultrasonic cleaners use "ultrasonic" sound waves to agitate the fluid/cleaning solution to penetrate the tiniest areas of an object
It is not electrolysis or any other such nonsense, think of it as putting a tub of water on a 12" bass speaker and cranking up NWA old skool.
It is not electrolysis or any other such nonsense, think of it as putting a tub of water on a 12" bass speaker and cranking up NWA old skool.
02-11-2007, 08:46 PM
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"! (Super Chicken)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Super Chicken »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ultrasonic cleaners use "ultrasonic" sound waves to agitate the fluid/cleaning solution to penetrate the tiniest areas of an object
It is not electrolysis or any other such nonsense, think of it as putting a tub of water on a 12" bass speaker and cranking up NWA old skool. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol; no...
a "12" bass speaker" wont make ultrasonic vibrations; it would be more like a 1" titanium or super hard substance tweeter oscilating at around 30-50k hz
It is not electrolysis or any other such nonsense, think of it as putting a tub of water on a 12" bass speaker and cranking up NWA old skool. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol; no...
a "12" bass speaker" wont make ultrasonic vibrations; it would be more like a 1" titanium or super hard substance tweeter oscilating at around 30-50k hz
02-12-2007, 04:19 AM
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaners "homemade info needed"! (Pay2play killa)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pay2play killa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lol; no...
a "12" bass speaker" wont make ultrasonic vibrations; it would be more like a 1" titanium or super hard substance tweeter oscilating at around 30-50k hz</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are correct Sir!!!!! Ding ding ding! We have a winner! The 12" was just for "relationship purposes" for the yo yo masses.
I'm looking for between 24 and 40Khz for my application (more agitation than say a circuit board cleaning app.)
lol; no...
a "12" bass speaker" wont make ultrasonic vibrations; it would be more like a 1" titanium or super hard substance tweeter oscilating at around 30-50k hz</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are correct Sir!!!!! Ding ding ding! We have a winner! The 12" was just for "relationship purposes" for the yo yo masses.
I'm looking for between 24 and 40Khz for my application (more agitation than say a circuit board cleaning app.)
02-12-2007, 04:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arc_55 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is varsol or hot tanking not cutting it for you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
"Varsol" requires some sort of either hand washing or machine to clean and I'm looking for hands off, also the machines won't remove the fine particles and blueing acids that I'm generating. The hot tank would possibly work better, but again I'm not sure it would have the same effect that Ultrasonic will. Hot tanks are typically at too high of a temperature for what I need and the parts I'm cleaning have some plastics that may be degraded by the heat.
"Varsol" requires some sort of either hand washing or machine to clean and I'm looking for hands off, also the machines won't remove the fine particles and blueing acids that I'm generating. The hot tank would possibly work better, but again I'm not sure it would have the same effect that Ultrasonic will. Hot tanks are typically at too high of a temperature for what I need and the parts I'm cleaning have some plastics that may be degraded by the heat.
02-12-2007, 10:05 AM
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Re: (Super Chicken)
http://www.bidservice.com/brow...y.asp
and search ultrasonic.
They sell LOTS of stuff for semiconductors, and I saw at least one ultrasonic generator for 395 bucks.
They also have SEMs if your interested
and search ultrasonic.
They sell LOTS of stuff for semiconductors, and I saw at least one ultrasonic generator for 395 bucks.
They also have SEMs if your interested
02-12-2007, 02:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snoochtodanooch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.bidservice.com/brow...y.asp
and search ultrasonic.
They sell LOTS of stuff for semiconductors, and I saw at least one ultrasonic generator for 395 bucks.
They also have SEMs if your interested</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good site, but very limited as far as what I need. An SEM would be overkill for any app I have
As you can see the prices for these things trend toward outrageous!
and search ultrasonic.
They sell LOTS of stuff for semiconductors, and I saw at least one ultrasonic generator for 395 bucks.
They also have SEMs if your interested
</TD></TR></TABLE>Good site, but very limited as far as what I need. An SEM would be overkill for any app I have
As you can see the prices for these things trend toward outrageous!
02-13-2007, 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboCoop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You better be careful- havent you ever seen the movie "chain reaction"???</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Ok so i have this little lamp type deal in my room that is pretty much a humidifier. Its a glass bowl with a little ultrasonic device in the bottom,its round with a bronze or brass circle in the middle that apparently vibrates so fast it makes the water turn into mist.(even thru about 2-3 inches of water) Pretty cool actually.Maybe you could buy like 20 of these lamps and just use the little little ultrasonic things out of it.
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damn my dad is an ultrasonic engineer...i shall have to ask him about this, see if he can fab up something so i can clean my head when my build starts
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I don't know if that would work. You have the whole wave interference issue once you start using a bunch of wave generators.
You want one generator and alot of power, not multiples.
Modified by snoochtodanooch at 9:21 AM 2/14/2007
You want one generator and alot of power, not multiples.
Modified by snoochtodanooch at 9:21 AM 2/14/2007
