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Old 07-23-2009, 03:59 PM
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I am a complete noob to welding. I am looking to learn so I can fab up my own charge pipes, exhausts...etc. At the end of day 1, after switching from SS to Al, I had a problem. But first--

Here is the setup:

Diversion 165
CK Worldwide gas lense
3/32 Red tungsten
0-100 amps

Process info:

Scotchbrite and acetone
Tungsten ground to a point (vertically)
Ground clamp directly to workpiece.

Here is the problem description:

Unlike with the SS, I am getting no concentrated-looking arc. Instead I am getting what appears to be a shower. There is no penetration and afterward the work-area appears like normal with a white halo.

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Does anyone have any ideas about what is going on?

Thanks.
Old 07-23-2009, 04:07 PM
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When welding alum you don't want a sharp tungsten, I usually put my machine on dcep and tap it a bit until the tungsten forms a small ball at the tip
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Thanks! That would make sense.

Are inverter and transformer type machines different in this regard? Or does the tungsten always have to be balled for aluminum?
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it will ball up when the machine is on AC anyway.
Old 07-24-2009, 02:39 AM
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don't ball it, on inverters you want a pointed tungsten with a flat tip.

how thick is the aluminum? have you moved the AC balance? sounds like your welding with insufficient amperage, post a picture.
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yup, a truncated point with an inverter machine works best.
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What shielding gas are you using? Straight argon?
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The arc sounds normal to me. You will never see a clean sharp looking arc on AC.
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Default Re: Aluminum Welding Woes

Originally Posted by Agtronic
The arc sounds normal to me. You will never see a clean sharp looking arc on AC.
You need to try an inverter on 250hz markku! Don't forget ear plugs
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100% argon.

I cannot change the AC balance with the Diversion. I was trying to lay a bead on a piece of 1/4". Maybe the thickness is what got me--I don't know, I was just very surprised to see no weld pool and no arc. I should try a piece of 1/8" to see if I get the same issues.
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the diversion 165 is rated for 3/16"

try pre heating it and turn your amps all the way up

you shouldnt have a problem with 1/8"
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Default Re: Aluminum Welding Woes

Originally Posted by LA_HONDAS
the diversion 165 is rated for 3/16"

try pre heating it and turn your amps all the way up

you shouldnt have a problem with 1/8"
good post ^
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