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Old 04-19-2016, 06:01 AM
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Hey guys! First of all, I know that there are a million threads about idle problems but I'd search and tried just about everything everyone says, but I can't seem to fix my problem. I feel like I'd done everything. Ok so my problem is that once the car is warmed up, I start having Idle surges roughly between 1100 to 1600 RPM and then randomly it will stop and idle normal at times. I have no CEL light, I'd replace the ECT sensor and bled the coolant, new IACV and PCV valve, but nothing. No vacumm leaks, now I will say that whenever I'm driving and I'm getting close to let's say a light and I let off the throttle, throw the car in neutral the revs will drop to 850 or so then they'll stay around 1500 2000 until I come to a complete stop, the car has always done this but not the idle surges. Now the car that I have is a 98 INTEGRA LS shell with a 96 spec b18c type R engine and Gsr tranny. Internally stock just velocity stack, headers, exhaust, and a chipped p28. I would say my throttle body is not stock because it's 68mm and as far as I know the ITR were 66mm, also I bought the swap with that throttle body. What I haven't checked is the calibration of the TPS sensor but there's defetnetly no vacumm leaks any where. If I unplug the iacv while it's surging the idle drops to about 750 800 RPMS and I get a CEL light. Any ideas or thoughts? Thanks again and hope you guys can help me out. One last thing I wanna say. I'd had the exact same set up on a 92 hatch and it did the same at times and for a long time the idle was mostly normal except the part where it kinda gets stuck when I let off the throttle getting to a light.
Old 04-19-2016, 07:26 AM
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I would dig up an integra type r service manual and see what rpm the base idle should be at. I suspect that your base idle is set too high, i THINK the type r base idle (with iacv unplugged and engine warm) should be 650 or so.
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Default Re: Idle surge only when warm and randomly goes away a times.

Can you take a picture of your throttle body? Some hondas have a fast idle valve that can be adjusted that could cause this complaint.
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Some do have one and very occasionally the brass plate needs to be taken off and the white piece screwed back in. But you aren't using a stock throttle body (62mm at throttle plate) and i have never seen an aftermarket one that has a FITV. I have always bypassed the FITV with a block offn plate since i rarely see aur temps below mid 20s

If your base idle is not correct your ecu cannot adjust idle under load correctly. As best i can determine base idle should be about 650rpm on a type r engine. If you are at 750 that could easily be a problem....also if your ecu chip was tuned with Crome that could also possibly beva factor.
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I know I don't have a FITV. Type R engines don't have one. How would I set up my base idle? I do believe my ecu was tune using crome. I don't know much about ecu and chips. Why would that be a factor?
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