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Default Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

Next spring I want to lower my car to get a better look and get better handling and reduce body roll. What exactly do I need? I live in Michigan where the roads are pretty rough so I only want to drop it about 1", maybe 1.5". I'm looking for something reliable with a long lifetime.

Also what's the deal with the adjustable coilovers? Like how easy is it to adjust them and what exactly is being adjusted, the height, spring rates, or something else? I want the stiffer feel year round but want to be able to raise it a little more in the winter because of all the snow. Is this possible or would I have to swap out the suspension every winter and summer?

Price range is about $500-1000, I'd rather save up a little and do it right the first time rather than buying some eBay stuff and buying something new down the line.

Car is a 2002 Accord coupe v6 on 16" stock wheels but I plan on getting 17" wheels before getting the suspension done. Thanks.
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Libertariat's thread is a good read: https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/click-here-all-you-curious-about-suspension-setups-their-costs-reliability-2967499/

With adjustable coilovers, they have a collar that you loosen by an allen wrench (Provided) in order to spin the collar up and down the sleeve, thus raising or lowering the car.

The only thing you can adjust is the ride height, you cannot adjust the spring rate. The spring rate is how stiff or soft the spring is, rated by lbs/in. Meaning a suspension with 450F/350R would take 450lbs to compress the spring one inch for the front springs, and 350lbs to compress the spring one inch for the rear springs.

I would suggest Progress coilovers since your only wanting to lower a tad.
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Default Re: Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

Thanks for the quick response at 3 am haha.
So if I get an adjustable coilover I just pick the spring rate when buying and then lower it however much I want after?

I didn't see a Progress kit for Accords...
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Default Re: Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

Would something like this be good and would I need anything else?

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...p/II=515/CA=61

What's the difference in the options it gives me?
And when it says per kit is that for the whole car?
Sorry I'm clueless in suspension.
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All depends on your goal. When you upgrade the springs ONLY, with higher spring rates, you put more wear and tear on your shocks (stock) which are designed for the current spring rates you have, somewhere around 100 something lbs inch. Another words, you might have to upgrade your shocks also.

Yeah my bad didnt notice your car, i dont think progress makes suspension components for accords.

Yeah that GC kit is for four springs with a sleeved assembly, but I have no idea what the springs rates are (it doesnt say) I would inquire about that because spring rates play an important role. You should ask them what the on the shelf spring rates are, and if they can make custom rates for you. Hopefully its not that much more
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Default Re: Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

Well if you did take a look at Libertariats thread than you have really only 2 choices

1. Koni/GC
2. AMR Engineering
So save on up and do it right the first time.
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Default Re: Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

I have been doing allot of research on suspension setups, and there aren't a whole lot of positive feedback on the amr, f&f. Progress cs2 seems the way to go or the koni/gc setup. Now depending on the driving your going to be doing is up to your spring rates. And with either setup you will have a little extra to play with!
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Correction; there is not a lot of available feedback (for you) about AMR. I have never seen any negative feedback from anyone using this setup. Not many people can afford such a setup so feedback may be relatively sparse. All of it has been good. F&F, however, deserves every bit of negative feedback that you can find.
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Sorry grumble I thought amr made f&f, but have been taking your advice and ordering the cs2s this week, debating on the 350/350 or the 450/350
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Originally Posted by 2L8v8
Sorry grumble I thought amr made f&f, but have been taking your advice and ordering the cs2s this week, debating on the 350/350 or the 450/350
They don't have 450s. 500s yes. The 350/350 should impress.
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Default Re: Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

With your budget I would personally skip the CS-II's and opt for the Konis/Ground Control.

I love my progress setup, but if I had it to do over again I'd go with Koni or AMR.

AMR will build the coilover for you

Koni/GC setup has the lifetime warranty and decades of happy racers.
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I would recommend a full coilover set up with the budget you have. Most of your full coilover set ups will allow you to get compression/rebound adjustment, preload, dampening and height. Lots of stuff you can use in a daily driven situation or a race atmosphere.

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Default Re: Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

Originally Posted by ksport
I would recommend a full coilover set up with the budget you have. Most of your full coilover set ups will allow you to get compression/rebound adjustment, preload, dampening and height. Lots of stuff you can use in a daily driven situation or a race atmosphere.

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Ok, you actually work for a company that makes shocks, so you have no excuse for not knowing better.

Dampen (as a verb): to make wet
Damp (as a verb): to decrease amplitude of oscillations

Wet shocks are not particularly useful, even if the level of wetness is adjustable.

The word you meant to use is "damping".
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Ok, you actually work for a company that makes shocks, so you have no excuse for not knowing better.

Dampen (as a verb): to make wet
Damp (as a verb): to decrease amplitude of oscillations

Wet shocks are not particularly useful, even if the level of wetness is adjustable.

The word you meant to use is "damping".
And your name's TunerN00b lol.
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Ok, you actually work for a company that makes shocks, so you have no excuse for not knowing better.

Dampen (as a verb): to make wet
Damp (as a verb): to decrease amplitude of oscillations

Wet shocks are not particularly useful, even if the level of wetness is adjustable.

The word you meant to use is "damping".
My bad education where I am from sucks noted though next time I use the word.

and yea.. arent you suppose to be a noob?? haha
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Default Re: Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

Originally Posted by Somalie187
And your name's TunerN00b lol.
Originally Posted by ksport
and yea.. arent you suppose to be a noob?? haha
In regards to tuning a car through ECU parameter changes, I am a total noob.

In regards to knowing the language and how to use Google, I have a rather expensive education helping out.

I'm also a bit of an **** retentive term ****. Feel free to make fun there as appropriate.
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Default Re: Adjustable coilovers/what do I need?

damp·en (dmpn)
v. damp·ened, damp·en·ing, damp·ens
1. To make damp.
2. To deaden, restrain, or depress:
Huess it depends on teh usage.
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