slofu

OK, here's the deal, i got Steve's full name, addy, phone #, and made a deal with him for an itr intake mani/tb and sent him the $. several days later he says he can't deliver, and that he'll refund my $. OK, no prob. so he send it back with paypal, and it's there for a while- like a month. then paypal removes it without asking, and says that it's because it might be from fraudulent sources. my gripe is that since paypal says if they find someone guilty of taking my $ without sending something, and the guilty party has insufficient funds in his/her account to cover it, paypal won't charge his/here credit card or withdraw from his/her bank account to cover me, so i have to pursue legal recourse against the person myself. the double standard is that if money was put into my acccount by someone else fraudulently, paypal removes it from my account before notifying me, thus rendering me personally resposible again for taking legal action against the fraud. however, paypal will not give me any personal info which they have with which to pursue legal action, even after they find the other party guilty. my point, as many already know, is that unlike escrow.com, billpoint, bidpay, ebay, and other services which allow private parties to accept credita card payments, paypal does nothing ever to help it's users when they've been scammed. below is the email they sent me, and my failed attempts to contact Steve Mancuso at 2 of his AOL email addresses. I am posting this since i know others to have had similar dealings with him, and am warning them that if their $ was refunded by paypal, to **** paypal and transfer all funds from paypal accounts in to bank accounts or credit cards, and promptly change banks and credit cards so that paypal cannot access them. as soon, if ever, i resolve this with paypal, i will never touch their **** service again, and recommend that everyone else take their business elsewhere at least until paypal becomes interested in better serving their clients.

Regarding a transaction with Steve Mancuso aka JdmLudeH22A@aol.com, Preylude93@aol.com, papadakismadness@aol.com

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<papadakismadness@aol.com>

----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to air-za05.mail.aol.com.:
>>> RCPT To:<papadakismadness@aol.com>
<<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
550 <papadakismadness@aol.com>... User unknown


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Attachment: Message/delivery-status


Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-za05.mx.aol.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:16:45 -0500 (EST)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; papadakismadness@aol.com
Action: failed
Status: 2.0.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; air-za05.mail.aol.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 250 OK
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:17:13 -0500 (EST)


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----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<preylude93@aol.com>

----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to air-xg03.mail.aol.com.:
>>> RCPT To:<preylude93@aol.com>
<<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
550 <preylude93@aol.com>... User unknown


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Attachment: Message/delivery-status


Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-xg03.mx.aol.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:55:52 -0500 (EST)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; preylude93@aol.com
Action: failed
Status: 2.0.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; air-xg03.mail.aol.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 250 OK
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:56:42 -0500 (EST)

Attachment: Forwarded Message

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:16:40 -0800 (PST)

From: "joe lubeski" <misteryee@yahoo.com>

Subject: paypal problem

To: PapadakisMadness@aol.com



Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 14:21:38 -0800

From: service@paypal.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: misteryee@yahoo.com

Reply-to: pending_reversal@paypal.com

Subject: Notification of Pending Reversed Transaction




Dear joseph lubeski,

It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of
potentially fraudulent funds. We have initiated an investigation
into this event. In the meantime, we have placed a
pending reversal on the funds in question until the
investigation is complete. This pending reversal will
show as a deduction in your available balance. In
the meantime, you are free to continue transacting using
your PayPal account.


Transaction Date: Jan 19, 2002 06:55:06
Transaction Amount: $310.00
Payor's Email: PapadakisMadness@aol.com

If you have not delivered the goods or services related to this
transaction, we ask that you delay or stop delivery until our
investigation is complete as you may be liable for the amount
in question.

To assist us in our investigation and to determine if you qualify
for the Seller Protection Program, please send an email to
pending_reversal@paypal.com with the following information:

1. The item, service or purpose of the purchase, and the
associated value;
2. The name and address given to you by the sender (if an
item was purchased);
3. If shipped, the company used for shipping, date of shipment,
and tracking number for the shipment;
4. Details of any other transactions related to the
transaction(s) in question;
5. A phone number where you can be reached during the day
and evening; and
6. Insurance information, if applicable.

Any additional information you have regarding this transaction,
such as email correspondence, will further help us to expedite our
investigation. Solving these cases helps us continue to offer
PayPal as a secure and cost-effective payment service. We
appreciate your cooperation and assistance.

Thank you,

The PayPal Account Review Department


[Modified by slofu, 4:04 AM 3/5/2002]


[Modified by slofu, 3:09 PM 3/5/2002]

pdiddy

I don't get it?

B2FiNiTY

iTrader: (2)

What...

b18bvtec4drteg

Yep u just got scammed.. that fool signoff that email addy.. Seen that too many times..

stkd16z6

someone has already posted about this guy from orlando, fl. sorry you've been scammed. i was acutally gonna buy something off him from the partstrader, but i saw some feedback here on the board.

slofu

ttt

gsr98vtec

you were scammed, someone got me for 750 for a gsr tranny via paypal, they cant access your credit card or bank though no matter what

slofu

OK, he lives in Orlando, FL. anyone wanna pay him a visit? i have his address and #. his family seems very nice- i've spoken to his father and brother- so i'm not asking for a hitman. i just want to let him know that i know where to find him, and that if it comes down to it, his family can be involved as well. if anyone helps and ever needs similar help in metro Detroit, i'm here. thanks.

Ryan_C

Try the Florida Foum here at http://www.clubsi.com

You should get some good help there.

Ryan

nfn15037

I am in orlando, and have warned several others about this lowlife. IM me and we can talk.

slofu

thanks guys.

deepnite

is this a paypal scam?..no wonder they re making so much money...and that a *no *****