EGJDM

what are you basing that si wheels would out perform a rota wheel?

EFn JP

i don't know if i would go as far as saying rota's are going to perform worse, a 99-00 civic si rim weighs 18 lbs and are cast, so pretty hard to break, (i know this cuze i can't bend a cast club head but a forged one i can with ease) and the rota gt-3s in a 15x7 is 13.5 lbs, and is cast, but in some cases you should figure MOI moment of interia, i don't get it but someone might, i found a write up by bad-monkey on honda-tech heres the link > https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1415856 show


and i cannot personal say how true the weights are but if you go to http://www.wheelweights.net/ you can see about any wheel weight made thanks and hate to correct a fellow montanaian (< is that correct termology?) but its all in good and si wheels look tight

91tealhatch

john=1
tom=0
pwned
all in good fun tho

aquarius

im not saying youre wrong...but im not sure if those numbers are accurate...he doesnt really mention any method of weighing them. Ive heard si's being called about 15 pounds..and although i havent really looked into gt3s...thats 13 lbs is very light for a cast wheel...almost too light to believe. In fact, ive seen forged wheels weigh more than that. I dont know man.

furthermore... youre comparing a 15x7 to a 15x6 wheel.
For a honda civic..especially eg/ef..you might be better of with 15x6 unless youve got a **** ton of boost. You wont have as much traction...but the car will probably still handle better..just because it has less tire to move....especially if you dont have power steering.
Also...on a 15x7 wheel the tires going to weigh more(and be more expensive and harder to find) and youll need more air..so in the end they might come out weighing pretty close to the same.

Strengthwise..of course there both cast. But, i bet honda's got a more advance research and development facility(which rota probably doesnt even have), and i bet honda uses better machines and higher quality materials. The si's gonna be stronger than the rota still..i can guarantee it. It will also be better balanced.

Besides..rotas are knockoffs and therefore poserish....but thats just an argument...i dont hate on rotas at all...theyre still good wheels.

Si's are still worth 600 simply because theyre oem, made by a company with better materials and development resources, and have a better finish. i still hold that they perform better.

But there are knockoffs of si's available..if you guys didnt know...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...43996


Montanan... by the way.
Thank YOU.

I think ill take a point on that scoreboard.


Modified by aquarius at 3:20 PM 10/26/2006


Modified by aquarius at 3:21 PM 10/26/2006

imptricer

iTrader: (1)

im not hating im just say good luck geting 600 for si rims in mint condition they better have some nice rubber on them for that price!

aquarius

theyre not really for sale, but 600 is what would get them out of my hands

imptricer

iTrader: (1)

i would hope so cause if some idiot offers you 600 for si wheels to better get rid of those lol

aquarius

thats a given. want them?>

91tealhatch

score still stands imo
john=1
tom=0
hahahahaha
lol

EFn JP

either way, both are just as durable, and i experienced a wider tire is better, im sure to wide is possible but not 7 inches, and the money difference couldn't be over 10 bucks, and using extra air is a poor excuse cost a fraction of a penny to make that air from a compressor, and yeah surely honda has to have a better facility, but its not rocket science to make a rim round and functional, i think cavemen figured out the circle so IMO it be tuff to mess up making a wheel, and cast is cast, if its die cast its horrible, but cast is what it is, its like comparing a saturn door to a ford, the saturn compnay has a small facility, and ford is huge, but saturn made a dentless door. size and money has nothing to do with someone work and creativeness i have to point out weight difference, i never said si's rims are worth 600 or not, i just couldn't spend 600 for oem used rims IMO, but thats me and there is people who will buy them for that much, like i said i was pointing out weight difference and handling, i never said i'd pic one over the other

The_Head

I'll just stick with HX rims

wheelmanbg

I'll stick with my 16's
even thought my speedometer reads faster than it should

91tealhatch

hahahahahaha this is good, a STUPID ARGUMENT!!!!!!!!!!
but yet still entertaning

EFn JP

i got some ungodly heavy 17's on my Mitsubishi Neon, definately did not make it faster or seem faster, but sure as hell might read a higher speed, idk damn that car, for sale, any buyers??

aquarius

cavemen didnt invent the circle, they invented the wheel.

I wasnt emphasizing the air itself, air is free!..i was emphasizing tire size and therefore price increase,

I wouldnt pick one over the other either. Both are tight..we can agree on that.

I still stand that a honda wheel will be better quality than rota, however.

the saturn vs. ford argument...doesnt really work; both are car companies. Rota doesnt make cars. The only way it would work is if saturn didnt make cars and only made replica doors for fords. or if we were comparing..say...a nissan wheel to a honda wheel. It would be amazing if a company that only made knockoff parts made something as innovative as dent proof doors.

Large facilities dont mean quality **** and i never implied that...ford factories are big because they have been around since it took massive assembly lines with actualy human beings pounding out all the metal. Honda...has robots. Honda's facility has newer and better technology and thats precisely WHY its smaller. Saturn is a newer company, and while its technology may be similiar to ford's, its facilities are still smaller only because they were built in a time when robotic technology was available. Just imagine ford's...massive old warehouses meant to hold thousands of people, now with just a fraction running machines.

Handling preferences vary from person to person. Im going for 16's..so thats mine.

Whats the story on chico?

91tealhatch

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expletive NO!!!!!!!!! nobody in this form wants that ****, lol
^^it pisses me off when it does this ****

wheelmanbg

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expletive NO!!!!!!!!! nobody in this form wants that ****, lol
^^it pisses me off when it does this ****</TD></TR></TABLE>
you can get around it, you know
kinda like
**** NO!!!!!!

EFn JP

teach me^^^^^

91tealhatch

^^^^^that was suposed to be me, i forgot to log out

wheelmanbg

Just quote my post
It's pretty self explanatory from there

EFn JP

well heres a rundown on what we are looking at for June at Chico

Chalet has 10 beds and not alot of other stuff and cost $229

What they call the side bedroom, its mainly a cabin/house has 11 beds and couches and that costs $345


the Cabin/ house is available June 5 6 20 28

then the Chalet is available June 4 5 6 7 12 13 14 15 20 21 28

i will post this in the beartooth pass thread and everyone can vote on what they want to do

CRR 2

Doesnt Enkie make hondas rims? I dont know if they still do but remember they used to.

The_Head

Enkie made the VX and HX rims, Idk about any others.

EFn JP

anyone have a car/truck for sale?? or know of any sweet deals on one? damn the weekend is over

aquarius

So what do you turbo guys use to tune? I was told vafc is not the way..and hondata is too expensive..so what should i do?