Simulating low offset wheels with spacers
10-23-2007, 04:58 AM
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Simulating low offset wheels with spacers
As the years passed, I noticed that more and more Honda enthusiasts have started to go with the "flush"/low offset look. While I do admit it looks quite good, I'm not too sure about it's performance function, but that's another story.
My question is, do S2000 owners ever "simulate" the look of a low offset wheel by throwing spacers on? I'm sure it could be done with OEM wheels too, but I haven't heard/seen any. With my limited knowledge about offset/camber adjustments, are you able to put on a 5-10mm spacer while using your stock AP1/AP2 wheels? There's literally a 1+ inch area where the wheel/tire ends and the fender is. I can't imagine there would be any negative affects, are there? Also, at what point would you need extended studs?
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My question is, do S2000 owners ever "simulate" the look of a low offset wheel by throwing spacers on? I'm sure it could be done with OEM wheels too, but I haven't heard/seen any. With my limited knowledge about offset/camber adjustments, are you able to put on a 5-10mm spacer while using your stock AP1/AP2 wheels? There's literally a 1+ inch area where the wheel/tire ends and the fender is. I can't imagine there would be any negative affects, are there? Also, at what point would you need extended studs?
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10-23-2007, 05:21 AM
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (shamoo)
People have done it, is it recommended? No not really, it will affect your handling.
If you are to buy wheels, You should avoid spacers at all costs if the appropriate offset is offered.
If you are to buy wheels, You should avoid spacers at all costs if the appropriate offset is offered.
10-23-2007, 06:09 AM
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (shamoo)
There is a specific amount of threads that the lugs need to have contact with, though I cannot recall what that requirement is.
I recently bought wheels that are not meant to fit the S2000, but I ended up loving the wide-track stance that it gave it, both visually and for the performance that it provides. The car handles with much more confidence than it did with the stock wheel setup. I don't regret anything about it.
As for adding spacers...I would do it as long as you don't go beyond the minimum thread requirement.
I recently bought wheels that are not meant to fit the S2000, but I ended up loving the wide-track stance that it gave it, both visually and for the performance that it provides. The car handles with much more confidence than it did with the stock wheel setup. I don't regret anything about it.
As for adding spacers...I would do it as long as you don't go beyond the minimum thread requirement.
10-23-2007, 10:34 AM
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (KingVR)
u can only do 2 parts of it..
low offset gives u flush , a wider track and on most wheels a concave/agressive look
with spacers you are can get it flush look and wider track... but u will need the extecded studs and hubcentric spacers to keep the load where it needs to be and not on the studs....
low offset gives u flush , a wider track and on most wheels a concave/agressive look
with spacers you are can get it flush look and wider track... but u will need the extecded studs and hubcentric spacers to keep the load where it needs to be and not on the studs....
10-23-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (S@nt0s)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S@nt0s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with spacers you are can get it flush look and wider track... but u will need the extecded studs and hubcentric spacers to keep the load where it needs to be and not on the studs....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, this is true, I totally forgot about the hubcentric rings. Do you know what the limit is as to how large of a spacer you can use before you need extended studs? I would imagine you would need extended ones for nearly every size of spacer (stock studs are not long at all).
Yes, this is true, I totally forgot about the hubcentric rings. Do you know what the limit is as to how large of a spacer you can use before you need extended studs? I would imagine you would need extended ones for nearly every size of spacer (stock studs are not long at all).
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (shamoo)
By popular request:
The wheels are SportMax 962's.
FRONT: 18" x 7.5" with a 38mm offset / 215/35/18
REAR: 18" x 8.5" with a 35mm offset / 225/40/18
Rear fenders rolled, rear bumper bolt relocated back, no rub on Eibach Springs.
Front needed no alterations. Perfect clearance, never rubs.
The wheels are SportMax 962's.
FRONT: 18" x 7.5" with a 38mm offset / 215/35/18
REAR: 18" x 8.5" with a 35mm offset / 225/40/18
Rear fenders rolled, rear bumper bolt relocated back, no rub on Eibach Springs.
Front needed no alterations. Perfect clearance, never rubs.
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (shamoo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shamoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes, this is true, I totally forgot about the hubcentric rings. Do you know what the limit is as to how large of a spacer you can use before you need extended studs? I would imagine you would need extended ones for nearly every size of spacer (stock studs are not long at all).</TD></TR></TABLE>
4-5mm max on the spacer is what i would do....
Yes, this is true, I totally forgot about the hubcentric rings. Do you know what the limit is as to how large of a spacer you can use before you need extended studs? I would imagine you would need extended ones for nearly every size of spacer (stock studs are not long at all).</TD></TR></TABLE>
4-5mm max on the spacer is what i would do....
10-23-2007, 11:39 AM
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're riding pretty high too, and very narrow tires. </TD></TR></TABLE>
This is true....which helps make it possible. Fortunately for me, that's exactly how I wanted the stance and height to be. Not a huge fan of the low-rider look.
This is true....which helps make it possible. Fortunately for me, that's exactly how I wanted the stance and height to be. Not a huge fan of the low-rider look.
10-23-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (KingVR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is true....which helps make it possible. Fortunately for me, that's exactly how I wanted the stance and height to be. Not a huge fan of the low-rider look.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't mind the ride height, but those ties are soooooo narrow. 225 in the rear!! I'd be struggling for traction with those puny tires. LOL
This is true....which helps make it possible. Fortunately for me, that's exactly how I wanted the stance and height to be. Not a huge fan of the low-rider look.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't mind the ride height, but those ties are soooooo narrow. 225 in the rear!! I'd be struggling for traction with those puny tires. LOL
10-23-2007, 12:03 PM
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't mind the ride height, but those ties are soooooo narrow. 225 in the rear!! I'd be struggling for traction with those puny tires. LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>
What tires would you/want to run? What do you have that would create a traction problem that I do not have?
I don't mind the ride height, but those ties are soooooo narrow. 225 in the rear!! I'd be struggling for traction with those puny tires. LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>
What tires would you/want to run? What do you have that would create a traction problem that I do not have?
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (KingVR)
x8.5 with a +35 u can stuff a 245 in there...
the fenders are rollded already and tab is relocated just give it some camber and your set...
i had some 225's in the back once for a short time and boy it was SCARYYYYYYYY
the fenders are rollded already and tab is relocated just give it some camber and your set...
i had some 225's in the back once for a short time and boy it was SCARYYYYYYYY
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (S@nt0s)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S@nt0s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">x8.5 with a +35 u can stuff a 245 in there...
the fenders are rollded already and tab is relocated just give it some camber and your set...
i had some 225's in the back once for a short time and boy it was SCARYYYYYYYY</TD></TR></TABLE>
hehe...maybe your track wasn't wide enough. The car with the stock wheels was scary, and the day after I put this wheel/tire combo on I left for my 2 week vacation and drove 4,500 miles. Went through the Tail of the Dragon 4 times and Blue Ridge Pkwy and all the other great roads...never slid a single time.
the fenders are rollded already and tab is relocated just give it some camber and your set...
i had some 225's in the back once for a short time and boy it was SCARYYYYYYYY</TD></TR></TABLE>
hehe...maybe your track wasn't wide enough. The car with the stock wheels was scary, and the day after I put this wheel/tire combo on I left for my 2 week vacation and drove 4,500 miles. Went through the Tail of the Dragon 4 times and Blue Ridge Pkwy and all the other great roads...never slid a single time.
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (KingVR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What tires would you/want to run? What do you have that would create a traction problem that I do not have?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm running 255's. And I'm boosted.
I hope you realize that stock tires are 245's.
What tires would you/want to run? What do you have that would create a traction problem that I do not have?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm running 255's. And I'm boosted.
I hope you realize that stock tires are 245's.
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm running 255's. And I'm boosted.
I hope you realize that stock tires are 245's. </TD></TR></TABLE>
stop talking no one cares that your boosted.... blow your hot breathe into the intake doesnt count
I'm running 255's. And I'm boosted.
I hope you realize that stock tires are 245's.
</TD></TR></TABLE>stop talking no one cares that your boosted.... blow your hot breathe into the intake doesnt count
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm running 255's. And I'm boosted.
I hope you realize that stock tires are 245's. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ya'llz a bunch of 225 HATERS!!
I hope you realize that the stock tires are 225's. (my S is a 2001, btw)
I'm running 255's. And I'm boosted.
I hope you realize that stock tires are 245's.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Ya'llz a bunch of 225 HATERS!!
I hope you realize that the stock tires are 225's.
(my S is a 2001, btw)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He asked what traction problems I'd have. LOL.
Hater. LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ya'llz a bunch of 225 HATERS!!
I hope you realize that the stock tires are 225's. (my S is a 2001, btw)</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL
the S2000's "225" is actually a 245 just so u know
LOL. Hater. LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ya'llz a bunch of 225 HATERS!!
I hope you realize that the stock tires are 225's. (my S is a 2001, btw)</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL
the S2000's "225" is actually a 245 just so u know
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (S@nt0s)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S@nt0s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
LOL
LOL
the S2000's "225" is actually a 245 just so u know </TD></TR></TABLE>
Say whut? Perhaps my 225 stretched...and the model tire it is (cause not all are the same...you know that) is like a 245, which explains my endless traction that knows no bounds!!
Ya'll haters just be jealous and stuff!! LOL
LOL
LOL
the S2000's "225" is actually a 245 just so u know
</TD></TR></TABLE>Say whut? Perhaps my 225 stretched...and the model tire it is (cause not all are the same...you know that) is like a 245, which explains my endless traction that knows no bounds!!
Ya'll haters just be jealous and stuff!! LOL
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (KingVR)
The original SO2's that came on the ap1's were marked wrong, they are actually 245's.
Maybe KingVR needs to drive the car harder, instead of driving like a granny. LOL
Maybe KingVR needs to drive the car harder, instead of driving like a granny. LOL
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The original SO2's that came on the ap1's were marked wrong, they are actually 245's.
Maybe KingVR needs to drive the car harder, instead of driving like a granny. LOL </TD></TR></TABLE>
agree 100%
Maybe KingVR needs to drive the car harder, instead of driving like a granny. LOL
</TD></TR></TABLE> agree 100%
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The original SO2's that came on the ap1's were marked wrong, they are actually 245's.
Maybe KingVR needs to drive the car harder, instead of driving like a granny. LOL </TD></TR></TABLE>
hehe
Maybe KingVR needs to drive the car harder, instead of driving like a granny. LOL
</TD></TR></TABLE>hehe
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The original SO2's that came on the ap1's were marked wrong, they are actually 245's.
Maybe KingVR needs to drive the car harder, instead of driving like a granny. LOL </TD></TR></TABLE>
How about the Dunlop 225's (205 fronts) that I took off the car? Were those marked wrong as well?
Maybe KingVR needs to drive the car harder, instead of driving like a granny. LOL
</TD></TR></TABLE>How about the Dunlop 225's (205 fronts) that I took off the car? Were those marked wrong as well?
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Re: Simulating low offset wheels with spacers (KingVR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingVR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How about the Dunlop 225's (205 fronts) that I took off the car? Were those marked wrong as well? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Probably not. The previous owner probably didn't realize the real size is 245.
How about the Dunlop 225's (205 fronts) that I took off the car? Were those marked wrong as well?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Probably not. The previous owner probably didn't realize the real size is 245.