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Old 11-11-2007, 05:52 PM
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i talked with blake briefly about it but i wanted to get some opinions. i have a darton wet sleeved block and some gold series mahle pistons. i was wondering if you could run these pistons. i can find any other ones that i can afford new or used. they are 11.5 .20 over. if anyone has a set laying around let me know. any ideas on if it will work???
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i cant figure out any reason why they wouldnt work besides for some reason the skirt material not working correctly with the iron sleeves.
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im going to try and call them tomorrow. called twice last wk and couldnt get through
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they DO make a piston thats made for iron cylinder walls

http://www.importperformancepa....html

notice it specifically says for sleeved engines only
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i know this. i dont have 500.00 laying around either plus another 300.00 to get tuned. i already have them so if i can use them i want to use them
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you cant sell them and buy new pistons?
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chances of me getting what i paid is slim so id like to use them if i can but if not thats what i will have to end up doing.
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They should work fine in a sleeved block. The material they make the gold series pistons out of just expands slower then a normal forged piston, allowing it to work with the FRM.

I'd still run it by Mahle and find out what piston to wall clearance should be used though.
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i have already called Mahle for a customer and they do not sagest using them in a sleeved block. there made for the stock h22 sleeve and will not work well with a sleeved block
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lol yea i just got off the phone with them too...they said they would recommend it. they said if i could find some rings to fit then i would be okay but im not going to go through all that. so **** now i have to find some new pistons. anyone have some new or used ones sitting around
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just be sure to recheck piston to wall and ring gap once you get another set of pistons.
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blake you dont have any pistons laying around or know someone with a set.
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I just bought some JE standard size 87mm pistons 11:5:1, does this mean i have to sleeve the block
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H-EK22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just bought some JE standard size 87mm pistons 11:5:1, does this mean i have to sleeve the block</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Was that a yes or a no?????
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H-EK22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Was that a yes or a no?????</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, you have to sleeve the block.
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can you please exlain why....sorry just curious.... i didnt think i had te spend more money after i bought the pistons
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should have done your research before hand....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=416069
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
should have done your research before hand....

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Does the jdm h22 use the stock frm sleeves than the usdm h22a1-h22a4...anyone???? cus thats what i got, sorry kinda of a noob
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all h series motors have FRM material.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all h series motors have FRM material.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks man...... I guess imma have to wait an get the money for the sleeves or just sell the pistons...... you recommend any bang for the buck sleeves???
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Default Re: (H-EK22)

darton makes a replacement iron liner. thats what im running in my h23vtec.

cheaper and machine shops dont charge much to install. Just be sure to send the pistons with the block so they can meet a specified piston to wall clearance.

you may have to sell those pistons anyway. If they arent oversided 87mm pistons (87.25mm) then you may be out of luck.


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