minilogoguy18

Just because ONE person who was already well known for the builds he did used it automatically makes it good? You do understand its just an H head on a 2L F block right? Also what was mentioned about the torque, it's not that the rated difference is much different its the fact that the F20b has to rev higher to get to that smaller amount of torque.

It was just an engine made to comply with Japan's sub 2L taxation on cars.

92civlude

Thanks for clarifying that.

codyh

JUST because everybody and their mothers have a h22, that makes it good? And ya thats what Im saying. His build is of teh highest quality. Why would he put a **** motor in?

94f20bacc

the f20b was made so that honda could compete in the 2.0ltr class races, so they destroked an h22 plain and simple. and depends on what car you drop either into. i mean your talking about a 2% difference here. like on certain turbo cars where they leave the fartcan slanted cause it gives them an extra 1 hp, screw that dumb stuff straighten it out so it doesnt look like you backed into a wall. that extra 1 hp wont make as much a diff at all. and its not like your tryin to build a top end full blown race car. think about it, take a choice and enjoy the fun. both will offer enough to put smiles on your face. and the head is exactly the same as the h22a4 minus the fact it has factory type s cams in it which is even better.

92civlude

I know Im pissing off all the guys who have f20bs under their hood! Its a unique engine, bluetop an all that. But the f20b is a compromise. Its a smaller version of the H22. Anything the F20b can do the H22 does better. The OP is looking for an upgrade. The F20b has less torque than the engine he already has. So... Is it an upgrade?

94f20bacc

once again that 2 percent of difference isnt much and isnt worth it for the price, theres like an 800 dollar difference between the two (GIVE OR TAKE DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU BUY, BUT STILL A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE) and for the extra 2 percent it aint worth it, you could do alot with 800 to make it produce more torque and power than the h22 plus you have all the benefits of an f series block. so yea it is an upgrade. you dont even have to sleeve it to turbo it, just need to lower the CR. and is not a smaller version, same size block on the outside. just destroked. sounds like youve never driven an f20b so you cant really talk about something you know only book specs on.

94f20bacc

its like this whole k20 bullshit craze that heavy assed 4thousand dollar swap doesnt give you much more of anything that an h22 or f20b swap wont, tho it was unique when it first came out now a **** ton of people have them. its pretty bad i can whup on an rsx type s with my old f22b1, course it was chipped with hondata and i was able to adjust for best running application but still heres the difference my engine 500 at the most, k20 anywhere from 1500-4500, the price difference isnt worth it by any means. all that extra money you would save buyin the f22 you could build it to out perform the **** outta a k20 and still be able to fix it if it breaks cheaper. not bangin on anyone who has one, just sayin about differences. an how so many people just go out and buy a k20 cause everyone says theyre fast as ****, not knowing most of those people have major mods done to their k20s to make them fast.

codyh

Since we are in a Prelude forum. I will go ahead an say that k20's dont fit in ludes. Thats 1 thing. Second thing a "K24" has on the f and h is one extra gear (6th). 3rd thing, you look under the hood and see an f series. FTL.

ColbyCD5

IM also doing a f20b with basic bolt ons blox stage 1 one camshaft crower valve train and tuned p28 nothing to bottom end do you think ill need to upgrade injectors im atleast switching to h22 and what are some good ones to use since cd5 is peak n hold with low impedance and what about headgasket if autodynamics is out of stock

92civlude

Ha Ha. Ive installed two of these engines. And both cars were ho-hum. Although the civic was ok. Ive never owned an F20b. So my opinion is unbiased because I dont have to defend my purchase. Sounds to me, you have a case of buyers remorse. I see by your user name you have an F20b in your car. Based on my experience, you would have been much happier with an H22.
H22 owner- F20b owner-
Oh.. Good luck finding a timing belt.
IM DONE HERE.

92civlude

I just checked prices at hmotorsonline. The F20b is going for $849 and the H22 is going for $999! Do the math! Where the hell did you get $800 dollars from?

94f20bacc

had both there guy, my last engine was an h22, ive owned alot of diff engines and went thru enough trial and error and testing to know what im talking about.

94f20bacc

read my last quote it says depends on where your buying from. most people who purchase their h22's get them from places selling them for more than 1100 bucks.

94f20bacc

o they fit, hell you can drop a small block v8 in them if you want just depends on what your priorities are and how determined you are. and i was only using the kseries as an example.

94f20bacc

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...1t:429,r:1,s:0

92civlude

Whos going to jump onboard this ridiculous statement? Now everything you say is suspect.

ColbyCD5

yeah whole bunch of complicated bs feels like im looking for some lost ancient honda archive. HOPEFULLY once my project is complete it will all be worth the effort

codyh

Ya of course, fall back on that statment to justify your lack of K'ed ludes knowledge.

lol However I dont care. So truce!

P-luder

Sorry so back to the build..
I have a an f20b swap in my 96 lude
But my rpm tach dont work..
Is that what the h22 obd1 distributer is for ??