h22 vs. h23a
03-12-2005, 12:45 PM
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Re: h22 vs. h23a (Kustomlude92)
In my opinion build the H23A1 you have with some H22 pistons to boost CR and get some stage 2 Crower camshafts. Then tune it and you will be able to pull on 90% of H22's all day long. You can get a LOT more midrange than the h22 has. You would also spend less than the H22 or JDM H23A swap costs too.
I have had both VTEC and non VTEC engines. The 2.3l nonVTEC is more fun as a daily driver.
Just my 2¢
Pirate
I have had both VTEC and non VTEC engines. The 2.3l nonVTEC is more fun as a daily driver.
Just my 2¢
Pirate
03-12-2005, 01:18 PM
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Re: h22 vs. h23a (PirateMcFred)
MPO is the h23, i like the torque! Besides its cheaper for one, and i dont know a whole lot about this stuff cuz im a noob but v-tec kicks in around 5000 (correct me if im wrong), and the rev limit on a prelude is around 6500 on my h23. I dont know if the rev limit is different on a h22.
To me having a bigger engine is better the having v-tec on a smaller engine. So, the point im trying to get at is it really worth it having a smaller motor with v-tec, if v-tec only works for about 1500 RPM.
I douno, all that high tech talk dosnt make seance to me when i search about it, but give me your input, im all about learning!
To me having a bigger engine is better the having v-tec on a smaller engine. So, the point im trying to get at is it really worth it having a smaller motor with v-tec, if v-tec only works for about 1500 RPM.
I douno, all that high tech talk dosnt make seance to me when i search about it, but give me your input, im all about learning!
03-12-2005, 01:22 PM
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Re: h22 vs. h23a (Prelude-TeCh)
It's all a matter of opinion, where do you like to keep the rev's at? My h22 is a lot of fun if I keep it spun up in the high end, but if your looking for low-end and mid-range power then ask pirate to give you some pointers and build a g23 
03-12-2005, 01:40 PM
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Re: h22 vs. h23a (JadedGamerX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JadedGamerX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ask pirate to give you some pointers and build a g23 </TD></TR></TABLE>
Who, me? lol!
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</TD></TR></TABLE>Who, me? lol!
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03-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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Re: h22 vs. h23a (Prelude-TeCh)
VTEC generally engages around 5500 RPMs. However, it doesn't stop at 6500.
For example, to show you the potential of the H22A... My VTEC kicks in at 4000 RPM, and lasts all the way till my redline, which is 9000. I would not recommend doing this on a completely stock engine, but it is possible when taking the correct precautions. In my opinion, and in the opinions of most, the H22A is the better motor in every aspect, ESPECIALLY when turboing.
If you want to learn more, let me know.
Matt
For example, to show you the potential of the H22A... My VTEC kicks in at 4000 RPM, and lasts all the way till my redline, which is 9000. I would not recommend doing this on a completely stock engine, but it is possible when taking the correct precautions. In my opinion, and in the opinions of most, the H22A is the better motor in every aspect, ESPECIALLY when turboing.
If you want to learn more, let me know.
Matt
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Re: h22 vs. h23a (Kustomlude92)
It;s all a matter of oppinion. Fully built a H23 will do same as h22 just the caracteristics will be slightly different.
More people tend to lean towards the H22 probable because there;s more stuff available for it, but when both are built properly they put out good power.
Gr
More people tend to lean towards the H22 probable because there;s more stuff available for it, but when both are built properly they put out good power.
Gr
03-12-2005, 02:49 PM
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Re: h22 vs. h23a (musclefella)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by musclefella »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fully built a H23 will do same as h22 </TD></TR></TABLE>
"Fully built"? I don't think that it would take that much to get stock USDM numbers. I/H/E 11.5:1 CR and springs/retainers/cams *tuned* would probably get you to 180hp with more mid range.
What I was refering to might be more than stock but in my mind fully built means, port and polish, cams, valvetrain, sleeves, forged pistons, forged rods, balanced rotating/reciprocating assembly, clutch and pressure plate, flywheel, LSD, custom header etc. etc.
I guess that some people are far more comfortable with performing a swap than taking the head off or messing with internals. I guess I am biased but on an H23 pulling the head, swapping cams and installing springs/retainers is a piece of cake. I just really can't see paying someone $70-$100 an hour to work on my engine.
Unto each their own I suppose.
Pirate
"Fully built"? I don't think that it would take that much to get stock USDM numbers. I/H/E 11.5:1 CR and springs/retainers/cams *tuned* would probably get you to 180hp with more mid range.
What I was refering to might be more than stock but in my mind fully built means, port and polish, cams, valvetrain, sleeves, forged pistons, forged rods, balanced rotating/reciprocating assembly, clutch and pressure plate, flywheel, LSD, custom header etc. etc.
I guess that some people are far more comfortable with performing a swap than taking the head off or messing with internals. I guess I am biased but on an H23 pulling the head, swapping cams and installing springs/retainers is a piece of cake. I just really can't see paying someone $70-$100 an hour to work on my engine.
Unto each their own I suppose.
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