Buying a factory supermoto. Suzuki drz400 vs. Yamaha wr250x
07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
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Buying a factory supermoto. Suzuki drz400 vs. Yamaha wr250x
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/DRZ400SMK9
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sp....aspx
I dont know too much about street bikes, but i have been riding dirtbikes for 15 years. My brother just got the drz tonight and i absolutly love it. I like the yamaha as well because its more like my dirtbike. What do you guys think? TIA
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sp....aspx
I dont know too much about street bikes, but i have been riding dirtbikes for 15 years. My brother just got the drz tonight and i absolutly love it. I like the yamaha as well because its more like my dirtbike. What do you guys think? TIA
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Re: Buying a factory supermoto. Suzuki drz400 vs. Yamaha wr250x (dohcnotec1)
they are about the same price, so with the suzuki you get 150 more cc for your money. also the suzuki has been out longer so its a lot easier to find a nice used one. i say drz
07-28-2008, 10:22 PM
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Re: Buying a factory supermoto. Suzuki drz400 vs. Yamaha wr250x (that one guy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by that one guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they are about the same price, so with the suzuki you get 150 more cc for your money. also the suzuki has been out longer so its a lot easier to find a nice used one. i say drz</TD></TR></TABLE>
good point, i can get the suzuki used for $5K and the yamaha is going to cost me at least $6500 after the BS from the dealer
good point, i can get the suzuki used for $5K and the yamaha is going to cost me at least $6500 after the BS from the dealer
07-28-2008, 11:48 PM
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Re: Buying a factory supermoto. Suzuki drz400 vs. Yamaha wr250x (dohcnotec1)
07-29-2008, 02:57 AM
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Re: Buying a factory supermoto. Suzuki drz400 vs. Yamaha wr250x (__oversea)
Get the DRZ. I had a DRZ400SM with a full yoshi and 3x3 mod and sold it to get my 2007 ZX6R but I really miss the DRZ, that thing was a blast to ride
07-29-2008, 04:06 AM
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I have a friend with a DRZ400SM, it's really neat, I'd love to ride one sometime.
The WR250 is a pretty new design as far as it being sold in street legal trim right? I'm sure they're excellent bikes, probably lighter than the SM, but as others have pointed out, you get 150cc more for $1500 less with the 'Zuk.
The WR250 is a pretty new design as far as it being sold in street legal trim right? I'm sure they're excellent bikes, probably lighter than the SM, but as others have pointed out, you get 150cc more for $1500 less with the 'Zuk.
07-29-2008, 06:33 AM
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Re: Buying a factory supermoto. Suzuki drz400 vs. Yamaha wr250x (__oversea)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by __oversea »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.supermotojunkie.com...52362</TD></TR></TABLE>
great info here thanks!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by touge »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get the DRZ. I had a DRZ400SM with a full yoshi and 3x3 mod and sold it to get my 2007 ZX6R but I really miss the DRZ, that thing was a blast to ride </TD></TR></TABLE>
what is the 3x3 mod? i see people talking about it. thanks!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicWagonRUS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a friend with a DRZ400SM, it's really neat, I'd love to ride one sometime.
The WR250 is a pretty new design as far as it being sold in street legal trim right? I'm sure they're excellent bikes, probably lighter than the SM, but as others have pointed out, you get 150cc more for $1500 less with the 'Zuk.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep this is the first year for a 250 yamaha in supermoto trim. it seems to be a great bike, but i wish they at least made a 450. i bet in a couple years it will be out
im leaning to the drz at this point, especially because you cannot test ride a new bike and ive already rode the drz and like it a lot.
great info here thanks!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by touge »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get the DRZ. I had a DRZ400SM with a full yoshi and 3x3 mod and sold it to get my 2007 ZX6R but I really miss the DRZ, that thing was a blast to ride </TD></TR></TABLE>
what is the 3x3 mod? i see people talking about it. thanks!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicWagonRUS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a friend with a DRZ400SM, it's really neat, I'd love to ride one sometime.
The WR250 is a pretty new design as far as it being sold in street legal trim right? I'm sure they're excellent bikes, probably lighter than the SM, but as others have pointed out, you get 150cc more for $1500 less with the 'Zuk.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep this is the first year for a 250 yamaha in supermoto trim. it seems to be a great bike, but i wish they at least made a 450. i bet in a couple years it will be out
im leaning to the drz at this point, especially because you cannot test ride a new bike and ive already rode the drz and like it a lot.
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if i'm not mistaken, the 250x makes more power or, is faster than the drz in spite of the displacement.
if buying new, i'd get the wr250x. if i was buying used, i'd get the drz.
suzuki needs to up their game with the drz.
if buying new, i'd get the wr250x. if i was buying used, i'd get the drz.
suzuki needs to up their game with the drz.
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Re: Buying a factory supermoto. Suzuki drz400 vs. Yamaha wr250x (dohcnotec1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcnotec1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what is the 3x3 mod? i see people talking about it. thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE>
The 3x3 mod is where you pull the snorkel off the top of the airbox and enlarge the hole to 3x3 inches. If you do that along with a full exhaust system and rejet the carb it totally transforms the bike. It's well worth doing even if you don't get the exhaust and just go for 3x3 and a rejet.
Here is a link to the best DRZ400 forum, anything you need to know about the DRZ will be there:
http://www.thumpertalk.com/for...&f=25
I'm thinking of selling my ZX6R and getting another DRZ400SM, most fun I've had on a motorbike
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what is the 3x3 mod? i see people talking about it. thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE>
The 3x3 mod is where you pull the snorkel off the top of the airbox and enlarge the hole to 3x3 inches. If you do that along with a full exhaust system and rejet the carb it totally transforms the bike. It's well worth doing even if you don't get the exhaust and just go for 3x3 and a rejet.
Here is a link to the best DRZ400 forum, anything you need to know about the DRZ will be there:
http://www.thumpertalk.com/for...&f=25
I'm thinking of selling my ZX6R and getting another DRZ400SM, most fun I've had on a motorbike
Modified by touge at 1:00 PM 7/29/2008
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i'm not mistaken, the 250x makes more power or, is faster than the drz in spite of the displacement.
if buying new, i'd get the wr250x. if i was buying used, i'd get the drz.
suzuki needs to up their game with the drz.
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You are indeed mistaken. The wr250x makes about 26 hp/16 tq. at the rear wheel in stock trim. And weighs in at a claimed 280lbs. dry. The DRZ makes about 35hp/30(ish)tq at the rear wheel stock and is claimed at 295lbs. dry. The added displacement means more "bang for your buck" as far as power per mod is concerned.
But of course the wr250x gets a 6 speed (as opposed to the DRZ's 5 speed) and fuel injection, whereas the DRZ is carb'd.
Also the DRZ makes 0-60 in around 4-5 seconds. The WR250X makes that in around 7 seconds.
It's still somewhat of a toss up as far as which supermoto is my next bike.
Husqvarna is having problems with their EFI, as well as getting parts because of the recent BMW buy out. The DRZ is slightly underpowered and slightly overweight. The WR....is well.....a 250. The Aprilias were blowing motors. And KTM is pricey. Damn, when will Honda step their game up?
if buying new, i'd get the wr250x. if i was buying used, i'd get the drz.
suzuki needs to up their game with the drz.
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You are indeed mistaken. The wr250x makes about 26 hp/16 tq. at the rear wheel in stock trim. And weighs in at a claimed 280lbs. dry. The DRZ makes about 35hp/30(ish)tq at the rear wheel stock and is claimed at 295lbs. dry. The added displacement means more "bang for your buck" as far as power per mod is concerned.
But of course the wr250x gets a 6 speed (as opposed to the DRZ's 5 speed) and fuel injection, whereas the DRZ is carb'd.
Also the DRZ makes 0-60 in around 4-5 seconds. The WR250X makes that in around 7 seconds.
It's still somewhat of a toss up as far as which supermoto is my next bike.
Husqvarna is having problems with their EFI, as well as getting parts because of the recent BMW buy out. The DRZ is slightly underpowered and slightly overweight. The WR....is well.....a 250. The Aprilias were blowing motors. And KTM is pricey. Damn, when will Honda step their game up?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Starscream »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not get a dualsport/enduro and convert it to SM? </TD></TR></TABLE>
some of them are not able to reg as street legal even with SM mod.
and sometimes it came out more expensive.
some of them are not able to reg as street legal even with SM mod.
and sometimes it came out more expensive.
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Because california smog ****'s are a b*tch.
Because california smog ****'s are a b*tch.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You are indeed mistaken. The wr250x makes about 26 hp/16 tq. at the rear wheel in stock trim. And weighs in at a claimed 280lbs. dry. The DRZ makes about 35hp/30(ish)tq at the rear wheel stock and is claimed at 295lbs. dry. The added displacement means more "bang for your buck" as far as power per mod is concerned.
But of course the wr250x gets a 6 speed (as opposed to the DRZ's 5 speed) and fuel injection, whereas the DRZ is carb'd.
Also the DRZ makes 0-60 in around 4-5 seconds. The WR250X makes that in around 7 seconds.
It's still somewhat of a toss up as far as which supermoto is my next bike.
Husqvarna is having problems with their EFI, as well as getting parts because of the recent BMW buy out. The DRZ is slightly underpowered and slightly overweight. The WR....is well.....a 250. The Aprilias were blowing motors. And KTM is pricey. Damn, when will Honda step their game up?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ah ok. i still think i'd rather have the WR if i were buying new. to me w/ a motard, weight is everything.
i really like the 450/510 smr. husky's got some issues, but i still think it's the best mix of value and performance since the KTM's are so pricey. a local dealer was blowing out 610's for 6337 OTD...
You are indeed mistaken. The wr250x makes about 26 hp/16 tq. at the rear wheel in stock trim. And weighs in at a claimed 280lbs. dry. The DRZ makes about 35hp/30(ish)tq at the rear wheel stock and is claimed at 295lbs. dry. The added displacement means more "bang for your buck" as far as power per mod is concerned.
But of course the wr250x gets a 6 speed (as opposed to the DRZ's 5 speed) and fuel injection, whereas the DRZ is carb'd.
Also the DRZ makes 0-60 in around 4-5 seconds. The WR250X makes that in around 7 seconds.
It's still somewhat of a toss up as far as which supermoto is my next bike.
Husqvarna is having problems with their EFI, as well as getting parts because of the recent BMW buy out. The DRZ is slightly underpowered and slightly overweight. The WR....is well.....a 250. The Aprilias were blowing motors. And KTM is pricey. Damn, when will Honda step their game up?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ah ok. i still think i'd rather have the WR if i were buying new. to me w/ a motard, weight is everything.
i really like the 450/510 smr. husky's got some issues, but i still think it's the best mix of value and performance since the KTM's are so pricey. a local dealer was blowing out 610's for 6337 OTD...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ah ok. i still think i'd rather have the WR if i were buying new. to me w/ a motard, weight is everything.
i really like the 450/510 smr. husky's got some issues, but i still think it's the best mix of value and performance since the KTM's are so pricey. a local dealer was blowing out 610's for 6337 OTD...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im thinking DRZ at the moment. Getting 50hp is relatively easy considering thats about a 40% increase in total horsepower. And theyre proven. And some of the weight is easily removed. But you are correct, weight is everything. Which is why the 260 lb husky is a dream, but may remain that way
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ah ok. i still think i'd rather have the WR if i were buying new. to me w/ a motard, weight is everything.
i really like the 450/510 smr. husky's got some issues, but i still think it's the best mix of value and performance since the KTM's are so pricey. a local dealer was blowing out 610's for 6337 OTD...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im thinking DRZ at the moment. Getting 50hp is relatively easy considering thats about a 40% increase in total horsepower. And theyre proven. And some of the weight is easily removed. But you are correct, weight is everything. Which is why the 260 lb husky is a dream, but may remain that way
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great info in this thread. im leaning twards the drz as of now. used for $5000
http://losangeles.craigslist.o....html
http://losangeles.craigslist.o....html
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcnotec1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is 1 for sale in vegas for $4300 that looks clean </TD></TR></TABLE>
But mine is better! And I just might be able to convince my buddy to drive it out there on a San Diego run...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2347289
</TD></TR></TABLE>But mine is better! And I just might be able to convince my buddy to drive it out there on a San Diego run...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2347289
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this is a dumb question, but why do dirt bikes mount the front fender so high off of the wheel? its not for travel because you can mount it right on top of the wheel and have them travel together. it just seems with all the dirt, mud, and water off road, it would protect from debrit better if its closer.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by that one guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is a dumb question, but why do dirt bikes mount the front fender so high off of the wheel? its not for travel because you can mount it right on top of the wheel and have them travel together. it just seems with all the dirt, mud, and water off road, it would protect from debrit better if its closer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i guess it helps being broken by high jump and rocks.
WR looks better than DRZ, but it sucks we only get blue color. Japan gets black color!!!!
i guess it helps being broken by high jump and rocks.
WR looks better than DRZ, but it sucks we only get blue color. Japan gets black color!!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Patrick »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I liked my DRZ a lot but I just felt like it was really dated. The DRZ needs a total makeover IMO. </TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed
if i didnt do my crf450 up, i think i would have went the ktm route. 100s of bikes to choose from there, and all are titled
That way you buy one a bit older and save some cash there and put it towards the conversion, just a thought...
agreed
if i didnt do my crf450 up, i think i would have went the ktm route. 100s of bikes to choose from there, and all are titled
That way you buy one a bit older and save some cash there and put it towards the conversion, just a thought...