ef civic

my question is fuse #14 is blowing when the ignition is in the on position[second click] i need to know or get a diagram of what is connected to fuse #14 i checked all the wires i know that connects to #14 like the main relay and others and i checked the fuse box itself and the intergrated control unit on the back of the box was fried and i changed it and fuse #14 is still blowing ......................please help

brian g

Replace teh main relay.

brian g

Camshaft

What year and trim si ?

RuthlessEF-9

yeah try replacing the main relay unit

ef civic

i tested the main relay and it checks out to be good and i even had another main relay and swaped it and it still blew the fuse

Camshaft

well your loss
I was going to print up the wiring at work....
but with no info...

ef civic

could you please print out the schematic for me please it's a 1990 honda civic 4dr lx i would greatly appreciate it thanks

ef civic

bumping it up please help

ef civic

bump it up

Camshaft

This must be in the dash fuse box correct ?
What does it say that fuse is for in the descriptoin on the fuse panel ?

The computer at work say it goes to the cluster, what doesn't work in your car with this fuse blown ?

USDM 4G VTEC

right now i got an electical troibleshooting manual
the Fuse 14 goes into the gauge assemby ,, it s a 10 amp
it also goes into a BLK/YEL cable (C407) that separates into the EACV, alt voltage regulator, PGMFI main relay, ECU and TDS sensor....also into the jumper conector, purge cutoff sol valve and ELD.... if i were you since the alt volt reg its into the same fuse i will check it.. bc all these components are after the fuse and not before... wich means they get power when u actually put the car on ON....
sorry i dont have a scanner for this page, but ask me for further questions.. i got this electricalk manual from a honda shop that its awesome...

also says its the gauge assembly , engine sensors and controls... check them...


[Modified by JDM EF9, 12:11 PM 12/6/2002]

ef civic

yes. in dash fuse box.
#14 says its the altenator and soleniod valve
and the wire from #14 that goes to the cluster go's to the charge warning light right ? i checked that wire too. thanks for the info guys i really appreciate it

brian g

Pull the plug on the alternator and see if the fuse blows.

brian g

ef civic

still the fuse blows

Jaker

I recently had that problem on my 98 hatch. I ended up having to run a new wire from the plug on the top of the left front shock tower and teed into the lead on the primary O2 sensor heater. There was a short somewhere in the engine wiring harness, and I bypassed it with this wire. I tried unplugging the various sensors that ran off that power feed, 1 at a time, while checking the fuse to see if it was blown, and it was none of the sensors. Now the 1990 will be totally different, so you'll have to do some digging, but chances are thats the problem.

ef civic

hey would anyone happen to have a schematic of what connects to fuse #14 that they could scan or send me? i ordered a helms electrical troubleshooting manual but it might not come in for another 3 weeks so if you have a schematic i would greatly appreciate it thanks for the replies guys

ef civic

bump it up again

USDM 4G VTEC

read the last post i wrote... i told u there some of the electronic components that receive current from that fuse.....

ef civic

what's the tds sensor?

ef civic

bump

Jaker

I think he meant TPS, which is throttle position sensor.

USDM 4G VTEC

no i didnt ment TPS.. i meant TDS
its a sensor iwth blk/yel cable and a orange one... its conector C115

Camshaft

Sorry for the delay!!!!!!!!!

Managed to dig it up

Shows Voltage regulator
Emission control solenoid
Main Relay
ELD unit
EACV

Listen to Brain G from hasport!!!!!
Upplug all these items:
Voltage regulator
Emission control solenoid
Main Relay
ELD unit
EACV

drop a new fuse in turn the key on, What happens ?
A) if it blows the fuse again....... you have a short to ground
B) if it doesn't blow the fuse plug one thing in at a time till she blows. Then you have found it

cam




[Modified by Camshaft, 10:16 PM 12/9/2002]

ef civic

thanks camshaft sorry i could post a schematic for the obd thing.

Camshaft

You said you had the helms on pdf ?

All I do is open up adobe or what ever and look at the pic right.

make sure adobe is the active screen. hit Alt print screen
Go to paint and go edit paste.....
You will have a screen dump of just that window
Cut what you want and send her on its way

cam