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Old 03-12-2015, 04:33 PM
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These are adjustable going on my track car only, looks like the clearance will be no problem with the upper inside fender, anyone ?

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Maybe its just me, but I wouldn't feel comfortable having 2 allen bolts holding my entire a-arm together. I also wouldn't feel comfortable paying $500 a set.
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I see how they adjust caster but they don't have camber adjustment?
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I too only see how it adjusts caster

Very odd. Can't say I've ever seen control arms like this before
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the metal parts on the bottom right of the picture are different length shims that get sandwiched in.

never saw this before....

holy ****.....

no.

just no.
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My thought also, I am not impressed with skunk2 and then there is spc to be honest they all look about the same, anyone have a experience with arms spc?
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whats wrong with your suspension?
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I don't necessarily see a problem with the idea behind this design provided that the bolts are a reasonable grade but the thought that it is essentially a stock arm cut and rewelded with plates and shims incorportated costing $500 is absurd (to me anyway). I still have ingalls "cam bolts" on my arms and they do the same thing with the only difference being the range is limited by the cam effect.

I would pass on these personally.
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i run my car at -3.5 camber and have been using camber bolts that make's it hard to fine tune at the track, looking for something easy to adjust
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I have the SPC style adjustable ball joints on mine. I want to say mine are actually Raybestos brand but they look identical to these SPC's:



They seem very high quality to me and are about as easy as it gets to adjust camber. Literally loosen the retainer nut (it's the "slim" design like in the picture) and slide the whole spindle in/out as you wish. The retainer nut deal above the arm doesn't stick up very high at all like on the old style.
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I ran the adjustable SPC ball joints back in 2004. They might have changed the design since then, but at full camber correction it would hit the unibody structure that the fender bolts to.
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Originally Posted by N2RCN4FUN1
i run my car at -3.5 camber and have been using camber bolts that make's it hard to fine tune at the track, looking for something easy to adjust
what kind of track?

-3.5 seems fine if youre taking turns.

what tires are you using?
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I ran the adjustable SPC ball joints back in 2004. They might have changed the design since then, but at full camber correction it would hit the unibody structure that the fender bolts to.
That was almost surely the old style with the tall retainer nut setup

It might still be close to touching on the new style for all I know but I'm not slammed and don't have them pulled out to full correction. Even at that, that "lip" that the arms would hit had already been trimmed out of my car anyway. So these wouldn't hit regardless
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Maybe its just me, but I wouldn't feel comfortable having 2 allen bolts holding my entire a-arm together. I also wouldn't feel comfortable paying $500 a set.
It's not just you.
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No, not ever, I would never consider these, why would you? Too flimsy for my uses.
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I have the higher end skunk2 ones.
They work well and the bushings have lasted.
I recently saw some tubular style ones but forgot the brand
I would get those because they look cool and strong.

But to be honest, since the skunk ones have not broken. I would stick with the skunk2
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This is one of the scarier hacks I've seen in a long time. Would stay away.
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Thanks for all the input, I have ordered the skunk2 pro series and going to add spherical bearings.
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Looks like the Moog replacement arms I just put on my 89 Si project. Looks like a pretty janky setup though.

Hardrace, Truhart both have kits out and PCI should be releasing there kit soon.

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Originally Posted by N2RCN4FUN1
Thanks for all the input, I have ordered the skunk2 pro series and going to add spherical bearings.
I would not reccommend those bearings at all. People only complain about them.
Truth is not even race cars run them.
Get polyurethane or harder rubber.
If you got skunk2 pro series, they will already perform better than worn oem. And those have reinforcement plates welded on
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Originally Posted by N2RCN4FUN1
Thanks for all the input, I have ordered the skunk2 pro series and going to add spherical bearings.
Whose bearings are you going to run? What is your cars intended purpose?
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Going to run some autox and mostly time attack at VIR, Summit Point and a few others, I was going to go with aurora bearings.
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Are you building the spherical kit yourself? Kingpin and PCI both have some available. Comes down to cost and a couple other things really.
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hard race
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I used to run revo technica. They were good for the street, but couldn't handle track abuse.
I see you've made your choice but figured I'd chime in for future readers.
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I put the skunk2 in and ran them straight out of the box, with -3.5 camber, just going to leave them like they are, improved my tire temps, as the temps were as good as i have ever seen them. If it ain't broke don't mess with it.


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