2ndGenREX

I'm not looking to start any contraversy here........i'm just curious if anybody knows statisticly what would be faster........a 88-91 crx with just a stock b16a1 motor swap or a stock 92' mustang 5.0 lx.

Opinions?

ridestrt

Depending on the condition of the rustangs engine. I have seen many 5.0s run in the 17's but my friend has one with an X-pipe that ran a 14.9. This in albuquerque where the elevation is 5200 at the track. Corrected for sea level it is a 13 second mustang. It only has 60k original miles, which is why it runs so good. If you dont care about cornering the mustang will easily be faster with a few mods. I would personally get the CRX because I cant deal with the 80s interior in the mustang.

kkw103

I tried to take out a mustang 5.0 on the streets and wasn't able to pull away after switching fom 2nd to 3rd......I didnt think his car was stock tho.... I have a b16a with pulley, I/H/E, T/B,I/M......engine hasnt been rebuilt tho.

2ndGenREX

Well i have a 89' Crx with stock b16a1 on its way(will be done soon) and this kid with 92' 5.0 lx has been wantin to run me......his cars in almost mint condition under 50k, he wants to run me. How are my chances lookin?

ElementMotor

my buddy had a 92 GT 5.0 with all the bolt-ons and it ran 14.7....a 89 CRX w/b16a with bolts ons should run high 14s with a good driver.....my old 88 crx si with i/h/e ran 14.7 @ 95mph

4inspeed

i dont know but i own both cars, a 90 5.0 and a 90 crx si with a b16, and have raced many stangs in my crx, i dont think you would have a problem beating a 5.0, i do it all the time, beating my mustang with complete flowmaster, and headers. and my crx only has i/e.

PoonHunter

I think you have a chance of taking a stang with simple bolt ons vs a b16a crx with bolt on. Ive seen some stangs from 89-92 style run mid 15s all day and some run mid 14's. Ive seen the most b16a crx run low 15's and mid 14's with bolt ons. Its funny you ask this question. I was gonna do the same thing. I sat back and compared each.

Looks- GT ok LX ugly.....CRX looks good
Price for performance parts- around the same except stang headers are cheap
Handling-Stangs can do alright but no comparison to a CRX
Interior-Gt ok seats LX not my style....CRX dx is ok Si seats and recaro look very nice
Performance-(Stock) GT 93 15.6 92 MT...91 CRX Si 16.1 (needs a b16a lol)
Gas mileage..CRX owns this one even with a b16a
Resale of clean non rusty cars-GT seem to be good, LX not very much(but this is better for performance since they are lighter)...CRX has decent resale
Chick factor- I know this is lame but damn girls used to love my car back in 98-00 dont know how they are now since ive had a woman since 00 but my bud has a lx stang and never got compliments

these are what i came up with and i decided for the CRX since it is a better daily driver. If you never ownd a v8 you would never appreciate the great gas mileage you get with a 4cyl and the nice traction you get in the rain with fwd.

91civicDXdude

If you beat him, cool. If not, dont fret. You have a 1.6L 4 cylinder. he has a 5.0.V8. 4 more cylinders and more than twice the displacement...thats a feat.

Home Skillet

Tell him to unplug 4 sparkplugs and then race you.

Malgerus

If he has a notchback, be careful. If it was ordered with the right options, such as lower rear gears, he should be running around 14.3-14.7 stock, provided the engine is up to par. A few choice bolt ons and a good set of tires should net mid-high 13's with that car... so a B16 may have a little trouble keeping up. All depends on the driver too.

Racer613

The thing that gained my respect for imports and well, just Hondas in general was, on Fridays and Saturdays I would go to the street races in CA with my 85 Gt 5.0 I used to beat Z-28s and GTI's and older Supras-88-89s,

I thought I was bad...until I got my *** handed to me by an Eg...I was like WTF!!??? Then I got my **** kicked by a 89 Crx DX with a b18c1 swap. That forever changed my views and hence forth I am a Honda freek!

I look forward to running my Rex against Z-28s, SS, and some Cobras...mabe even a Vette or two....we will see what happens.....

rice_classic

If you think beating those cars on a drag strip is fun... Wait till you take it to a Lapping day at the race track and pass the M3's... NOW THAT'S FUN!

1st-hybrid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If he has a notchback, be careful. If it was ordered with the right options, such as lower rear gears, he should be running around 14.3-14.7 stock, provided the engine is up to par. A few choice bolt ons and a good set of tires should net mid-high 13's with that car... so a B16 may have a little trouble keeping up. All depends on the driver too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes sir notchbacks can be very fast cars. They are also my favorite mustang. I would love to have one. And if it was between my crx and a nothcback, well lets just say the crx would be history.

2ndGenREX

should i ask him next time if its a notchback? is a notchback a certain model stang?? sorry i'm real uneducated with american cars

slooogsr

Notchbacks dont have the hatch like the lx and gt's do and are alot lighter......... a friend of mine just picked one up in good condition for 4.5k, put intake, headerS, and full exhaust with slicks ran a 14.2 at the track in MD....... definitely a 13sec car considering it was his first time running a manual trans at the track. Internally stock motor with the stock .308, gear ratio....... 373's and he would def see mid 13's....... again all depends on condition of motor and driver.

another friend of mine has a 92lx convertible 5.0 with .373's...... intake and full exhaust runs 15.0's........ its fun when i run right along side of him with my stock 4banger.......... in south jersey im surrounded by american muscle heads, but they have grown some respect for hondas since i have been around and have seen what my car can do with basically nothing done to it.

SiR Kid

I['m a dedicated Honda fan, but I drive my Mustang GT when the Honda is down.

1986 Mustang GT, stock engine with a CAI extension, offroad H pipe, and 2.5" exhaust with flowmaster mufflers. It ran 14.21@95mph on street tires like that.

My B16a all motor never went faster than 14.80 on street tires, and that was reasonably modified and tuned on a dyno with ITR cams, ITR intake manifold, YS1 tranny, JG 64mm throttle Body, GReddy exhaust, and a test pipe. Made 151 at the wheels on the dyno, and ran like a scalded dog. It was 2350 without me in it, though.

I prefer driving my Mustang in the rain... It's more fun, and it just feels more connected to the street, because I don't have to worry about my steering and drive wheels being on the same end of the car.

raene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
My B16a all motor never went faster than 14.80 on street tires, and that was reasonably modified and tuned on a dyno with ITR cams, ITR intake manifold, YS1 tranny, JG 64mm throttle Body, GReddy exhaust, and a test pipe. Made 151 at the wheels on the dyno, and ran like a scalded dog. It was 2350 without me in it, though. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dang! Only a 14.8 with that?!? That doesn't sound right with that laundry list of mods... especially the hp #s. Sure, your times seem fine for the hp and weight, but the hp just seems low, esp with ITR cams.

SeaBass

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have a 1.6L 4 cylinder. he has a 5.0.V8. 4 more cylinders and more than twice the displacement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Um, actually he has more than thrice the displacement

TheHatchHog

had three mustangs 5.0 in the past, to 89 5.0 5 speed hatchs, and a 90 cobra before I got sick of paying 90 a week on gas, and desided to go import. My cobra had hurst shift kit 373 gear in the rear, h pipe , flow masters, cobra shorty headers, 95 mm throttle body, high per cams, k@n filter with short ram. Now I have a 89 crx dx with a B16a swap ,high flow cat, full stainless cat back, dc header, short ram intake, rims, lights guages, I will tell you one ting for sure, my crx is quick but the cobra stang would have killed it in a race. a stock 5.0 , you will probably be just a hair slower, couple mods and you will run right with it if he has any gear in the rear, watch out.,,,,,dont change over to a mustang, rear end sways all over the ****** place in the rain, shitty roads, very ****** dangerous, the reason I sold my last 90 cobra was that I was sick of paying 90 dollars of gas a week, and I tapped my gas when in second on a rainy day, startred going sideways into oncoming traffic, then found my little stang into a ditch, fucked up the trans, to scary wont ever go back to domestics.

goforbroke

I think your going to get owned. And like you said "stock" b16a vs 5.0 mustang. And think about what 5.0 mustang do you know that stock. You should ask the guys in the kills forum they will let you know the deal.

91 POS

If it is a 92 it comes from the factory with forged pistons so you can run up to a 200 shot with good fuel and tuning. I race a mustang every weekend and it would take I don't know how much money to get my CRX to run low 7s high 6s in the 1/8 mile. Put good tires, headers, fuel pump, gears, and spray on that 92 and I haven't seen any CRX's around here that would hang

SiR Kid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicciviccivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> had three mustangs 5.0 in the past, to 89 5.0 5 speed hatchs, and a 90 cobra before I got sick of paying 90 a week on gas, and desided to go import. My cobra had hurst shift kit 373 gear in the rear, h pipe , flow masters, cobra shorty headers, 95 mm throttle body, high per cams, k@n filter with short ram. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You, sir, have absolutely NO clue what you're talking about, do you?

#1) There was no 90 model Cobra. Only 79-82ish, and 93-present.
#2) 95mm Throttlebody? On what intake manifold? 95MM is BIGGER than the entire stock Intake Manifold inlet tube.
#3) Cobra's had stock LX/GT 5.0L headers/manifolds on them... what exactly are you referring to?

E-AT_me

sorry, but i have to be observant......

it's cool seeing everyone talk about the goods/bads of mustangs.. it's nice to see people not just domestic bashing and actually knowing some of the things they say..

it's also interesting to me that:
A: a lot of people own both a honda an a stang and
B: some people have moved from stang to honda.........

i personally have a ford ranger, but wanna swap in a 5.0 in it.. 4wd, but whatever..

but i was thinking about a stang for a while....


btw, i am side by side with 2 people in my car with a 96+ 4.6 gt, presumably stock..

TheHatchHog

SIR KID ......90 hatch LX, with cobra motor, welded cobra sub frame under neath, edelbrock intake buddy. trust me. shorty headers. i built v-8s for years. Ialso had a 1970 ford torino gt with a 351 cleavland all built up. LATER.. want some pictures? smart ***

PoonHunter

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicciviccivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SIR KID ......90 hatch LX, with cobra motor, welded cobra sub frame under neath, edelbrock intake buddy. trust me. shorty headers. i built v-8s for years. Ialso had a 1970 ford torino gt with a 351 cleavland all built up. LATER.. want some pictures? smart ***</TD></TR></TABLE>

Show me some pics of them. I dont see to many Torino GT's anymore (I just wanna see some cool pix) .