Timing belt flapping around?!
03-15-2007, 03:47 PM
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Timing belt flapping around?!
recently put a new timing belt, tensioner and tensioner spring in with my swap.
the timing belt is flapping around a lot so i took off the top timing cover to see wth that noise was. the timing belt is moving around a lot but doesn't look like it skipped a tooth or anything. the front side of the belt is tight but the back side is little looser and the top of the cam gears has barley any play in it when pushed down.
help! i want to drive my car finally
the timing belt is flapping around a lot so i took off the top timing cover to see wth that noise was. the timing belt is moving around a lot but doesn't look like it skipped a tooth or anything. the front side of the belt is tight but the back side is little looser and the top of the cam gears has barley any play in it when pushed down.
help! i want to drive my car finally
03-15-2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: Timing belt flapping around?! (Lord Milferdeen)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lord Milferdeen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like its freyed or something? Did u run it with the cover off to see?</TD></TR></TABLE>
doesnt look like it's shredded or anything. i ran it with the top cover off.
doesnt look like it's shredded or anything. i ran it with the top cover off.
03-15-2007, 03:59 PM
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if its loose on the back (intake side) just redo the tensioner</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do you mean redo?
what do you mean redo?
03-15-2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">loosen the tensioner bolt and take out some slack...
sounds like the spring is not tensioned as far as it should be</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh ok. do i need to turn the crank to take out a little slack? does both side need to be a little tight or little loose?
sounds like the spring is not tensioned as far as it should be</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh ok. do i need to turn the crank to take out a little slack? does both side need to be a little tight or little loose?
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03-15-2007, 04:48 PM
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Re: (.hue)
you want to front of the timing belt to be tight and the rear to be loose. then loosen up the tensioner get out the slack and tighten the tensioner.
03-15-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You realize that makes no sense right? Why would starting it, solve any loose belt problem?
What kind of slack are we talking about?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i meant to see if it worked or not...theres about half an inch on the rear, intake side.
What kind of slack are we talking about?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i meant to see if it worked or not...theres about half an inch on the rear, intake side.
03-15-2007, 07:52 PM
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Re: (ashb82)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ashb82 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont try to start the car if you think the belt is loose 
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me? please just pm him if you want to answer his question
</TD></TR></TABLE>me? please just pm him if you want to answer his question
03-15-2007, 07:52 PM
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Re: (ashb82)
My belt flops on my intake cam gear side. I dunno why. My belt was just replaced last summer so no worries. But Someone told me my engine has a harmonic tensioner/balancer that adjusts the tension while the engine is running.
03-15-2007, 08:00 PM
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Re: (EM1_ChRiS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1_ChRiS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My belt flops on my intake cam gear side. I dunno why. My belt was just replaced last summer so no worries. But Someone told me my engine has a harmonic tensioner/balancer that adjusts the tension while the engine is running.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hum, but its reallly loud and looks and sounds dangerous...
hum, but its reallly loud and looks and sounds dangerous...
03-15-2007, 08:16 PM
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Re: (.hue)
Is there a chance you bought the wrong timing belt? Maybe a little too short or too long?...My friends timing belt kept flopping around on his LS engine because his tensioner kept coming loose...just a thought.
03-15-2007, 08:19 PM
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Re: (EM1_ChRiS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1_ChRiS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there a chance you bought the wrong timing belt? Maybe a little too short or too long?...My friends timing belt kept flopping around on his LS engine because his tensioner kept coming loose...just a thought. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i got it from pro street. but damn if it is, whata bitch its guna be to change out with engine in now
i got it from pro street. but damn if it is, whata bitch its guna be to change out with engine in now
03-16-2007, 07:15 AM
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I dunno if this helps but the belt should have P-somthing marked on it to identify if it's right (if it's an OEM belt). Like for my b16a2, it's a P2T ecu and my belt had it marked on it when I bought mine from Honda.
03-16-2007, 07:19 AM
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Re: Timing belt flapping around?! (.hue)
.hue, does the motor have a shaved head or thinner headgasket? if so, you will have to tension it MORE then the stock tensioner does on it's own.
03-16-2007, 07:38 AM
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its very simple to fix this problem. I used to hate doing timing belts. but since ive taken off and put back on over 100 timing belts i see it very simple.
put the motor on top dead center.
loosen the tensioner bolt.
use sometype of prybar or something to push the tensioner all the way up.
tighten the tensioner bolt.
it should be tight enough when you do this.
lastly to see if the timing belt is loose dont turn on the motor. Just simply turn it over with a rachet on the crank pulley bolt.
put the motor on top dead center.
loosen the tensioner bolt.
use sometype of prybar or something to push the tensioner all the way up.
tighten the tensioner bolt.
it should be tight enough when you do this.
lastly to see if the timing belt is loose dont turn on the motor. Just simply turn it over with a rachet on the crank pulley bolt.
03-16-2007, 09:07 AM
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Re: (92redhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.hue, does the motor have a shaved head or thinner headgasket? if so, you will have to tension it MORE then the stock tensioner does on it's own.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stock head and used a brand new OEM head gasket.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its very simple to fix this problem. I used to hate doing timing belts. but since ive taken off and put back on over 100 timing belts i see it very simple.
put the motor on top dead center.
loosen the tensioner bolt.
use sometype of prybar or something to push the tensioner all the way up.
tighten the tensioner bolt.
it should be tight enough when you do this.
lastly to see if the timing belt is loose dont turn on the motor. Just simply turn it over with a rachet on the crank pulley bolt.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i cant really turn it fast enough to if it going to flap around.
Stock head and used a brand new OEM head gasket.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its very simple to fix this problem. I used to hate doing timing belts. but since ive taken off and put back on over 100 timing belts i see it very simple.
put the motor on top dead center.
loosen the tensioner bolt.
use sometype of prybar or something to push the tensioner all the way up.
tighten the tensioner bolt.
it should be tight enough when you do this.
lastly to see if the timing belt is loose dont turn on the motor. Just simply turn it over with a rachet on the crank pulley bolt.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i cant really turn it fast enough to if it going to flap around.
03-16-2007, 09:12 AM
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Re: Timing belt flapping around?! (.hue)
hey i had that problem. it was on my b18 tho. started it up and the belt was flopping like a bitch so i killed the engine right away. then i loosened the tensioner, pushed the tensioner up so the belt would be tighter, then tightened it. started it up and ran smooth. wrong belt or not enough tension on the belt could be your problem.