mountaindewguy

yea its a quarter mile question....
i don't think im gonna boost, so please don't just say "awh, just boost it"

i was thinking either: keep my d16z6 with every bolt on, and IF i boost i would supercharge it... or swap in a b16 into my civic and get like every bolt on possible...what do you guys think? the car will be for daily driving, and sometimes a 1/4 run.....any ideas? i know this is brung up alot, but if im gonna make a decision, i gotta make it. thanks, just getting some opinions
also, what are some quarter times for you guys with a b16 swap?

mountaindewguy

*also, the engine i was thinking of dropping in was a b16a3 from a del sol.. Do i need to replace the axels? just wondering... because i know alot of swaps you do...

Kyles ej1

i would flame u but im thinking of a b16 in my eg and wanted to know about the 1/4 too but u do have to change

civicdx1

i got a 98 with a 00 b16a2.i run 9's on the 1/8 mile.just boosted it last weekend.

NerveAgent

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ahh damn..quick

civicdx1

running it tommorow with boost .

matthevelli

i have a 95 eg hatch with a b16a..shortram intake, jun 4-1 header, soon a omnipower testpipe, and a 5zigen fireball catback...hoping to run at least a 14.5quarter mile time with out lsd...i love turbo hatches but there something about an all motor monster dohc vtec i just love...im sticking N/A....going to the track in a couple weeks so i'll let you know what i get..

germz

i ran a 14.3@97mph on my b16a sirII (hatch dx)
not to happy with my time, i dyno at 165whp/112trq

JDMlyfestyle

b16a2
ITR head
ITR 4.7 FD LSD Tranny
AN-R header
Custom 6 puck clutch
Iceman intake
Holley FPR
RSR GTII exhaust
PLx m300 wideband o2
p28 with crome tuned by me

13.58 @ 99.09 MPH
2.2 60'
195/50/14 Falken Azenis 23 psi.

Morning Call

uhm.. a boosted d16 will have better numbers then a n/a b16.. and for roughly the same price.. if not cheaper

a b16 is prettier though

JDMlyfestyle

^^^^ not true. I woop all over local boosted D series. beat a GSR boosted 8lbs, Si with 10lbs, H22 prelude with 9lbs of boost. So boost wont always get better #'s

_gurusan_

In terms of money vs. power boosting the D is much more efficient.

I bought a b16 and it's such a bitch to drive.....it's fun revving it up...but it just doesn't pull hard enough to make up for the lack of low end......so I'm boosting it.

nsxmatt

Depending on what it's going in (EX/DX/VX hatch/coupe) the B16 can be pretty quick. Mine did 13.9 with I/H/E but in a VX hatch. That 150whp would be slower in a ex coupe but still pretty decent.

You say no boost now but drive it for a year and then you may upgrade to 100 more whp

civicdx1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depending on what it's going in (EX/DX/VX hatch/coupe) the B16 can be pretty quick. Mine did 13.9 with I/H/E but in a VX hatch. That 150whp would be slower in a ex coupe but still pretty decent.

You say no boost now but drive it for a year and then you may upgrade to 100 more whp </TD></TR></TABLE>mine is in a civic dx.

Slipjack

IMO a D16 isn't really capable of cranking out numbers that are worthwhile unless it's boosted. If you don't want to boost I say go with the b16.

With the money you would be saving by not getting an expensive b16 you could be boosting your d16 instead. Turbo Ds can be worth it.

_gurusan_

I swapped a b16 in cuz my current engine was having problems and i needed something quick...

if I could do it over again I would have rebuilt my D16....bored it a bit, sleeved it.....forged internals.....buy a JDM d15b transmission.....and then a greddy 19t turbokit

s2kkk

I went 14.1. 92 VX Hatch, 99 B16A2, Apexi Header, 2.25" catback, CAI, full msd ignition, chipped p28, exedy stage 1 clutch, with a 2.0 60'.

EDIT

I just boosted my hatch with a full-race stage 2 turbo kit, hondata s200 tuned, ctr cams, cometic .074" 4 layer MLS head gasket, 550cc rc injectors, hondata IM gasket, supertech valve springs and retainers and 3" turbo back exhaust. Have a time slip next month.


Modified by spoon.eg at 10:38 PM 5/14/2005

berettagtz117

Keep the Z6 and build it! B16's are good but not worth all the money to swap when you could just drop that money into you Z6 motor and run 12's like I do

DavidT or VajT

B16 all the way! Ran 14 flat with I/H/E and stg2 comp cams...was sprinkling that day with street tires

bluehatchy

i recently went to the track with my b16 vx hatch

ran ran a 15.51@90 mph with an amazing 2.5 60 ft.
i had massive wheel hop though, going through 1-2nd shift, 2-3, and 3-4 shift there was wheel hop.

yokohama avs es100's 195/50/15 not good for drag.

oh yeah, have a aebs intake mani, vtec controller, and a partial exhaust.

germz

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yokohama avs es100's 195/50/15 not good for drag.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exact same problem with my boy's hatch...wheel hopping all the time w/ them tires.

redline201

nsxmatts b16a is a freakish motor
ive never heard of anyone else running 13s with a b16a before

that or hes one hell of a driver

id say most b16a hatches run about a 14.7 (stock w/ i/h/e)

mountaindewguy

if i boost my z6..it'll be a supercharger. i will have this car for a long time, and i understand boost can last a while, but i don't think the engine would stay as strong for as long with boost. and i take some long trips too.

the only way i would drop in a b16 is if i can get one from my local salvage yard for under 800...otherwise its a built/slight possibly boosted z6

mountaindewguy

oh yeah.. why do i need to upgrade/replace my axels if its only a b16? is the HP increase still too much for the civic axels?

_gurusan_

a b16 will run much more than 800...

And B-series axles and D-series axles aren't interchangeable.