Jaskula1

what would someone have to do to make there SOHC honda 1.6 VTEC motor beat a B16 in a 1/4 mile? i dont wanna add turbo. would a cam, ex tranny, and a piston kit do it or would it need way more? cause i want my car to be a little faster (bout as fast as the B16) but i dont wanna do a whole motor swap. thanks

BauleyCivic

High compression pistons, Y8/skunk2 intake manifold, EX tranny, port/polished head, and a crazy cam should do it

By the time you do all that **** though, you could have bought a b16 and have a better platform to start out with.

dsadas89das78934

easily

chads

yea by the time you get your sohc to stay with a stock b16 your gunna have as much into it as it would be to buy a b16.

Jaskula1

wow, that is a lot of stuff. what would be a good motor to put into my 93 Hatch. i'm looking for maybe mid 14's. what would be an average price on a motor swap?

Mar_DC2

n/a D16 probably won't do much against a B16, unless you spent lots of $$$ on it. turbo's probably the easiest and cheapest way to go. you get relativly more hp/dollar than you would building it for all motor.

NA95d16z6

ahh, but what makes you feel better, knowing that u tuned an "inferior" engine to out do a "better" engine, or throwing in the most popular swap out there. personally i like my little single better. (ive ridden in b16's and H22's). maybe it;s just me.

my $0.02. oh well.

edit: why? just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. makes me go "i did that".
sleeper factor too maybe. "woah! its only a SOHC! ill take ur *** boy" (thats what they think!!)

edit2: wait, i just realized. you have 2 SOHC's and you are hawking DOHC logic? why?


Modified by NA_95d16z6 at 6:43 AM 3/3/2004

BauleyCivic

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b16...approx 2500 shipped...install labor is extra

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Yeah but the money factor always comes into it. D-series are meant to be economical, a dime a dozen, cheap, good all around performing motors. When you put thousands of dollars into one to make it as fast as a stock GSR motor...you really have to ask yourself why.

Mag00n

Why don't you want to add turbo? It's by far the most cost effective way to make your dseries quick and if you take your time and research and learn it will not be unreliable.

Jaskula1

one of my buddies has a SOHC Turbo car all done up with everything u can imagine, pistons, port and polished head. crank, cam, intake manifold and was running 15 pounds of boost and we went done to the strip and he got beat by a civic Hatch back with a CRVTEC motor. i was thinking if i wanted to do a swap that thats what i would like to do. but about how much would one of those motors run?? would it be worth it? i heard they are a really good motor. from what i saw with that one at the track it was fast. but he also had stuff done to it

Jaskula1

well how much would a turbo set up for my car cost? i guess im just affraid of blowing the motor with a turbo. i mena i know i can blow my motor w/o turbo too. but i guess i feel i'll have more of a chance to blow it with

NA95d16z6

ummm... go to greddy's site. the make an ok kit u can throw on stock. just dont run the boost too high. think about upgrade pistons, rings, rods, and ARP bolts to hold it all down. then run the boost higher. clutch too!

Racerage1

just go turbo...if your only looking for 14's it's your best option. it's cheaper than a B16 swap.

liam821

There is always NOS. A 70 shot should get ya a mid 14 second pass in a 92-95 civic.

liam

blackeg

ok- get the compression up around 12:1 (either like pm7's or pistons out of an a6 and a milled head, or any other alternative u can think of), do a mild port and polish on the head, put in a nice cam like crower st2, retard the timing, chip the ecu and raise rev limit a few hundred rpms. do all the bolt ons u can think of- also look into lightned flywheel- mine mad a noticeable difference in acceleration. now put this 140-160whp motor u just made in a semi gutted hatch and you will be happy. if i ever run into some extra loot i absolutely want to try to build a 150+whp sohcvtec, cause i know it can be done and all my friends think im crazy for believin it.....disclaimer: im beat *** tired and cant see straight right now, therefore im not liable if i sound like an *** or pass on slight misinformations

=GAME=

basic bolt ons and clutch
weight reduction
60 shot
baby slicks
13's

Street Ghost

a good driver

anothersickhatch

a B20/vtec motor, or CRVtec as you said it, is the only b-series motor that will give you over 200 hp (besides the JDM type r motor) and is also fairly easy to work with. i block will cost you about 800 dollars but you would have to get a vetec head, like a b16 or b18 head, and do some MILD worok to the block (i.e. head bolst, vtec wiring). the head will prolly run you about 1200 but your motor will be putting out more power and torque than any stock b series motor youll come across. <U>that is STOCK too.</U>
they are the ****...i plan on taking that route myself...

Eg4-TuRbO

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why dont you go ask your homie?

IWearMyKswiss

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGB16hatchie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a B20/vtec motor, or CRVtec as you said it, is the only b-series motor that will give you over 200 hp (besides the JDM type r motor) and is also fairly easy to work with. i block will cost you about 800 dollars but you would have to get a vetec head, like a b16 or b18 head, and do some MILD worok to the block (i.e. head bolst, vtec wiring). the head will prolly run you about 1200 but your motor will be putting out more power and torque than any stock b series motor youll come across. <U>that is STOCK too.</U>
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unless you are buying a b18c5 head from honda,..1200 for a vtec head means you are getting RIPPED ,..hell even from honda thats a rip

quickteg

just put a bottle on it and be done with it

SOHC_MShue

it wouldn't take much at all to beat a si coupe with a b16. A hatch with a b16 may be a little harder.

Jimmy

iTrader: (5)

If your just talking about your wanting to be a 99-00 (si) then it's not going to take much...

I had an apexi n1 catback,testpipe,ebay cai and beat quite a few si's at the track...It really depends on the driver,but i know its possible for you to do it without trying really hard because I've beat them in my EH3

mafioso102

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jaskula1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one of my buddies has a SOHC Turbo car all done up with everything u can imagine, pistons, port and polished head. crank, cam, intake manifold and was running 15 pounds of boost and we went done to the strip and he got beat by a civic Hatch back with a CRVTEC motor. i was thinking if i wanted to do a swap that thats what i would like to do. but about how much would one of those motors run?? would it be worth it? i heard they are a really good motor. from what i saw with that one at the track it was fast. but he also had stuff done to it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless the hatch was gutted to hell and the motor was built quite a bit, thats all driver. Ive seen basic SOHC turbo's putting in amazing times, not to mention built ones. Tell your friend to learn how to drive

SwampThing

id say baby slicks and a 55 shot should do it, i've beat acouple with headers(exhaust leak) intake and a 55 shot on the street so doesnt take much.