ITR Front Swaybar - Worth The Money?
05-07-2010, 04:36 PM
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Re: ITR Front Swaybar - Worth The Money?
The real question is:
What is your current suspension set-up?
Spring rates? Shocks? Do you have a rear swaybar?
Do you have an LSD tranny?
If you were to only add the ITR front bar to your current set-up you might actually make it handle worse!
"What's this crazy guy talking about?"
i'm telling you that a huge front swaybar can make the car actually UNDERSTEER MORE, especially if you have no rear bar, and no LSD tranny. The big front bar can cause the front inside tire to lift in mid corner, thus the open differential would try snd send 100% of the power to that inside tire because it provides less resistance than the outside tire - that's how an open diff works.
If you had an LSD then a little front inside tire lift wouldn't be so bad since the LSD works to keep both wheels spinning regardless of resistance/lack thereof.
I'll give you an idea of what I personally run:
425F/550R spring rates
Koni Yellows
14mm Integra non-ITR rear swaybar
NO front swaybar at all
Yeah I'm crazy, right?
Honestly I am a little crazy. I do not let just anyone drive my car because one wrong move mid turn and the *** is passing the front and my car is destroyed; quite possibly injuring/killing someone. I've been driving it like this for 8 years now though, so it can be done with proper driving and knowing one's limits. that's what auto-x and track days are for.
I have the car set up so that the back end can rotate very easily if called upon by lifting the throttle mid turn - it's an auto-X set-up ideal for under 65mph sharp turning. If I were to set this car up for higher speed road racing I'd probably toss the front GS-R bar I've got in my garage to ADD some understeer/neutrality.
What is your current suspension set-up?
Spring rates? Shocks? Do you have a rear swaybar?
Do you have an LSD tranny?
If you were to only add the ITR front bar to your current set-up you might actually make it handle worse!
"What's this crazy guy talking about?"
i'm telling you that a huge front swaybar can make the car actually UNDERSTEER MORE, especially if you have no rear bar, and no LSD tranny. The big front bar can cause the front inside tire to lift in mid corner, thus the open differential would try snd send 100% of the power to that inside tire because it provides less resistance than the outside tire - that's how an open diff works.
If you had an LSD then a little front inside tire lift wouldn't be so bad since the LSD works to keep both wheels spinning regardless of resistance/lack thereof.
I'll give you an idea of what I personally run:
425F/550R spring rates
Koni Yellows
14mm Integra non-ITR rear swaybar
NO front swaybar at all
Yeah I'm crazy, right?
Honestly I am a little crazy. I do not let just anyone drive my car because one wrong move mid turn and the *** is passing the front and my car is destroyed; quite possibly injuring/killing someone. I've been driving it like this for 8 years now though, so it can be done with proper driving and knowing one's limits. that's what auto-x and track days are for.
I have the car set up so that the back end can rotate very easily if called upon by lifting the throttle mid turn - it's an auto-X set-up ideal for under 65mph sharp turning. If I were to set this car up for higher speed road racing I'd probably toss the front GS-R bar I've got in my garage to ADD some understeer/neutrality.
05-07-2010, 06:24 PM
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Re: ITR Front Swaybar - Worth The Money?
well im currently running the stock suspension on my ek this weekend im planning on dropping it 2.5 inches on fully adjustable coilovers my cars wobbles a lot under full bost in 4th gear and wanted to stiffen up the ride a bit i will get a rear swayabr if i get the front one
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