Dekorum

Does any body know how to remove the ELD once you open up the back of the fuse box? I can't figure it out..



There you can see what I am talking about. I have to transfer my ELD to another fuse box, so that is the reason I need to remove it.

tony_2018

What fusebox is this? ELD can be removed from the top once you've unplugged it, not sure all models are like that.

Dekorum

This is a 92-95 Civic fuse box.
The ELD cannot be removed, let alone even seen, from the top...

B_Swapped93

its stuck in there for that gen 99% after obd2 they made it a replaceable item. get a new fuse box no way really around that.

Dekorum

Ah, that's terrible! Man, I wish I knew this before purchasing a used Canadian fuse box.
Thanks for letting me know because I could not find this anywhere.

It also looks like Honda stopped selling fuse boxes..
Honda Automotive Parts

I am screwed...

ejv8s10

If the fuse box is no longer available, why not open up your old one?
Get a Dremel and a small cutting disc. Five minutes of careful cutting will open it up.
Tell me what material it is and I will recommend a way to put it back together.

So; if you get it apart do you have a good ELD?

Dekorum

My ELD is good, but there's another problem with my fuse box so I am transferring it to another fuse box without an ELD.

I don't have a dremel nor do I want to do what you suggested. Sorry, man! I will just have to look for another fuse box that includes an ELD.

DieMaster

iTrader: (1)

why not just go to a junk yard and pull one? you could probably just pocket it it's small enough.

BTW ive had a 4th, 7th, 6th, 8th and now a 5th gen civic and they've all been replaceable. sure obd2 and up is easier. in the first pic it looks like faded white connector? if it's not replaceable why not just mold that into the fuse box plastic? if CDM just don't put the pins / components in. i would be shocked it it wasent snaped together and sanwitched inbetween is the ELD. im sure you will have to remove EVREY fuse.

Dekorum

I will go to the junk yard at a later date, if I need to.

So you've had a 5th gen civic and it was replaceable? How do you know this?
Yes it is the faded white connected in that molded box in the first picture. I don't want to remove every fuse and then have to put them all back unless I know for sure if and how the ELD is removed.

B_Swapped93

if time is the main issue, yes a junkyard or a used one via ebay is the best option. I've done that several times with my current build just don't have the time to mess with my existing part. would much rather just buy a new one.

B20VtecVillain

92-95 box has an integrated ELD and cannot just be swapped and replaced. Now if you were to cut and rig something you might be able to work it, but from the factory the ELD was not setup to be removable. I'm speaking soley for USDM though and I cannot speak for model specs of other countries.

TomCat39

CDM doesn't have the ELD as far as I know.

No clue about Europe or Japan.

Dekorum

Yes, I am starting to agree with you that the 92-95 ELD was not made to be removable.
Not sure about Japan either, but CDM is definitely without an ELD and US models have one.

Time is a huge issue, because I was waiting for this part from a friend and needed to do the install this weekend before I put the car in storage for half a year. Do not think I am going to be able to go to the junkyard right now. Also, my car is down because I have the fuse box removed... I really do not want to put it in and then pull it back out again. It is definitely not a two second job.

I am trying to get one of the used part monguls off craigslist to meet with with the part.

Dekorum

Any one know is the fuse box is the same among all 92-95 manual and automatic?

deschlong

iTrader: (8)

**** me, this is all nonsense. I have a JDM EG6 SiR-S (RHD) fuse box kicking around, yes it has an ELD.

It took me all of five minutes to pull it apart and access the ELD underneath. Remove all the screws and fuses, begin to separate the two parts at the right side in the photo (near where the two screws are that are higher up).

Photos for evidence:



To the OP (to whom I sold the fuse box and other items): I didn't even *think* of the ELD issue after it arrived at your house, so sorry about that, it never occurred to me. BUT, I did say the ELD could be swapped, so here's how it's done (would I lie? )

Dekorum

Haha! Thanks, buddy.
I wish you posted this a couple days ago. I put it back in the car and I have pretty much decided to do it later this year because I was racking my brain for a bit trying to source a US fuse box from craigslist to no avail.

I will take apart the one you gave me while it is inside, and maybe (if it easy enough for me to take apart) I will swap the one from my car in the next day or so.
Side note, you make everything look easy! Can you explain a bit about how you begin to separate the top once you remove all screws/fuses?

Dekorum

And btw, you are a genius for figuring this out. I took all fuses and screws out and I finally figured out how to separate it. Definitely a little cautious when trying to pry it out without breaking anything. Let's see if I can do this again on my old fuse box.

deschlong

iTrader: (8)

If you look around the edge of the part I removed (left side of top pic), you can see little tabs. Push out the tabs with a flat screwdriver, but begin near the tongue that sticks out towards those to higher-up screws. I just eased it out slowly, prying out the tabs along the edge as I went.

deschlong

iTrader: (8)

You can also see how dremeling it out wouldn't work either since it's anchored in there with that metal bracket, so that advice is not wise.

Dekorum

Yep..

For completeness, here it is, CDM fuse box with no ELD



Hope this thread is useful to others some day.

deschlong

iTrader: (8)

Great. Double and triple check that your fuses are replaced into the correct spot when you reassemble. And ... glad I could help.

DieMaster

iTrader: (1)

See i told you. ive taken apart enough fuse boxes to know whats removable and whats not. granted i replaced the battery today in the 95 and also took out/apart the fuse box and took a bunch of pictures, but deshlong beat me in posting them by about 2 hours.

TomCat39

This thread is only from last year, I am thinking it's safe to bump. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Will the ELD from the 94-97 integra plug into the CDM non ELD fuse boxes?

Finding 92-95 CDM SI fuse boxes is getting rather difficult in this late day and age and I may be getting a USDM P28 ECU with a motor and tranny. Looking at my 93 ETM, not sure if CDM SI's had the ELD. Another interesting tidbit is toronto auto parts doesn't even list a 2 door (coupe) EX in 93 or 95 and yet, I have a 95 CDM 2 door EX in my parking stall I've been slowly ripping parts off of. Sooooo, to figure out the ELD issue if I take on the USDM D16Z6 with Auto Tranny and USDM P28 ECU.

Looking to figure this out for my wife's car.

Also looks like I will have to run a plug and some wiring from the hood fusebox into the cab for this.

Biggest challenge is finding a suitable ELD to fit the CDM fusebox.

94EG8

Deschlong can probably answer this for sure, but if I was going to guess I'd say yes. I seem to remember the fuse boxes looking the same.

There's nothing special about the Si fuse box, all of the '92 - '95 fuse boxes are the same.

No '92 - '95 CDM Civic had an ELD.

There is no such a thing as a 5th gen CDM EX coupe. The closest thing would be an Si. If you actually have an EX coupe it's an American car that's been imported.

TomCat39

VIN lookup comes back as EX 1.6L 95 Coupe.

1995 Honda Civic 2dr Coupe EX Manual 1.6L

MFR model code EJ112S

Manufactured By Canada Cars

So, I'm guessing US vin decoders place it as an EX but since it's a CDM car it's an SI?

Of note, has DRL circuit and does not have the ELD in the fuse box.