1997 Civic DX Clutch Sound?
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1997 Civic DX Clutch Sound?
So I just bought a 1997 Civic Coupe DX, when I start it in the morning and release the clutch it makes a buzzing sound and goes away once the car warms up, while its cold and I press the clutch in the sound goes away? I talked to a mechanic and he said the clutch might need to be replaced soon, I just want to make sure that's correct. Also when I first bought it I cleaned it out and found a paper from a shop that he took it to and the write-up side the clutch master cylinder had no fluid, it said to fill and bleed. How do I make sure the previous owner did that?
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Sounds like a failing input shaft bearing. See:
Notice how replacing the throwout bearing (part of a standard clutch job) didn't fix the noise. Control-f and search for "input shaft bearing" in the comments section and note all of the comments explaining the cause of the noise as due to the input shaft bearing.
Also see:
DIY: Diagnose manual Tranny Noises (and save some $$$) - Honda Civic Forum
Notice how replacing the throwout bearing (part of a standard clutch job) didn't fix the noise. Control-f and search for "input shaft bearing" in the comments section and note all of the comments explaining the cause of the noise as due to the input shaft bearing.
Also see:
DIY: Diagnose manual Tranny Noises (and save some $$$) - Honda Civic Forum
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Yes this sounds like the very common input shaft bearing problem. How many miles? The input shaft bearing is going to go at around 150,000 miles. Replace it, and the rest of the transmission can last a long time.
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Re: 1997 Civic DX Clutch Sound?
Sounds like a failing input shaft bearing. See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeo_Rm0O3gs
Notice how replacing the throwout bearing (part of a standard clutch job) didn't fix the noise. Control-f and search for "input shaft bearing" in the comments section and note all of the comments explaining the cause of the noise as due to the input shaft bearing.
Also see:
DIY: Diagnose manual Tranny Noises (and save some $$$) - Honda Civic Forum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeo_Rm0O3gs
Notice how replacing the throwout bearing (part of a standard clutch job) didn't fix the noise. Control-f and search for "input shaft bearing" in the comments section and note all of the comments explaining the cause of the noise as due to the input shaft bearing.
Also see:
DIY: Diagnose manual Tranny Noises (and save some $$$) - Honda Civic Forum
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Re: 1997 Civic DX Clutch Sound?
Bump, got another question. I noticed the rattling/spinning/ whatever noise only begins when the clutch is realeased half-way, still an input shaft bearing? Looked through some threads and can't find any that describe any of this well. Also, can not replacing it soon enough cause damage? It doesn't seem to effect shifing.
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Pro-Tip: If you hear the noise with the clutch in, most likely it's going to be the throwout bearing. If it makes noise with the clutch out (and goes away when you push the clutch pedal), most likely it's the input shaft bearing.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...vents-3290093/
See my "Refresh Thread"
In the case of my 94 EH9, the car made a hellacious noise in gear with the clutch released. My throwout bearing was fine, but I replaced it while the trans was out. My clutch wasn't making noise, but a couple of the intertia springs on the clutch disk had broken from their perches and wouldn't allow the car to be shifted.
In my opinion, based on your issues (and the mileage) I would go ahead and pull the clutch. If it completely wears out, the car won't move. Do yourself a favor and swap it before it becomes a real issue. And while the trans is out, definitely change the input shaft bearing (it's very easy) and the input shaft seal. Don't forget the pilot bearing!
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...vents-3290093/
See my "Refresh Thread"
In the case of my 94 EH9, the car made a hellacious noise in gear with the clutch released. My throwout bearing was fine, but I replaced it while the trans was out. My clutch wasn't making noise, but a couple of the intertia springs on the clutch disk had broken from their perches and wouldn't allow the car to be shifted.
In my opinion, based on your issues (and the mileage) I would go ahead and pull the clutch. If it completely wears out, the car won't move. Do yourself a favor and swap it before it becomes a real issue. And while the trans is out, definitely change the input shaft bearing (it's very easy) and the input shaft seal. Don't forget the pilot bearing!
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Replace everything. Tranny is out. Rear main seal while you're at it. Oil pan gasket if its leaky. Get exedy oem replacement kit, comes with everything u need. Clutch disc, pressure plate, pilot bearing, throw out bearing.
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A note on the pilot bearing, that bearing only goes in from one side of the flywheel. I thought the Exedy kit came with the wrong bearing for a sec because i was trying to install from the wrong side...
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Re: 1997 Civic DX Clutch Sound?
Pro-Tip: If you hear the noise with the clutch in, most likely it's going to be the throwout bearing. If it makes noise with the clutch out (and goes away when you push the clutch pedal), most likely it's the input shaft bearing.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...vents-3290093/
See my "Refresh Thread"
In the case of my 94 EH9, the car made a hellacious noise in gear with the clutch released. My throwout bearing was fine, but I replaced it while the trans was out. My clutch wasn't making noise, but a couple of the intertia springs on the clutch disk had broken from their perches and wouldn't allow the car to be shifted.
In my opinion, based on your issues (and the mileage) I would go ahead and pull the clutch. If it completely wears out, the car won't move. Do yourself a favor and swap it before it becomes a real issue. And while the trans is out, definitely change the input shaft bearing (it's very easy) and the input shaft seal. Don't forget the pilot bearing!
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...vents-3290093/
See my "Refresh Thread"
In the case of my 94 EH9, the car made a hellacious noise in gear with the clutch released. My throwout bearing was fine, but I replaced it while the trans was out. My clutch wasn't making noise, but a couple of the intertia springs on the clutch disk had broken from their perches and wouldn't allow the car to be shifted.
In my opinion, based on your issues (and the mileage) I would go ahead and pull the clutch. If it completely wears out, the car won't move. Do yourself a favor and swap it before it becomes a real issue. And while the trans is out, definitely change the input shaft bearing (it's very easy) and the input shaft seal. Don't forget the pilot bearing!
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Re: 1997 Civic DX Clutch Sound?
Replace everything? What do you mean tranny is out? I thought all I needed was a new isb and clutch + flywheel? My tranny shifts fine other than the shifter bushings are worn. Goes into every gear with no grinds or pop-outs.
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Re: 1997 Civic DX Clutch Sound?
It is what it is, great project for me and my friend. His dad passed a couple years ago and left him behind a 97 dx like mine except a hatch. He used it as a show car and put sub walls in it and bed lined all the interior for sound proofing. Difference is, his only has 44,000 miles and his dad bought it off the showroom for back in 97. I'm crazy jealous.
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you have to drop the transmission to do the clutch and the ISB, so look at the other things mentioned while its easy to get to them. also have a look at your axles and boots while they are out.
yes, kit comes with everything except the flywheel, which will need resurfacing, cleaning, or replacing depending on how worn it is.
yes, kit comes with everything except the flywheel, which will need resurfacing, cleaning, or replacing depending on how worn it is.
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you have to drop the transmission to do the clutch and the ISB, so look at the other things mentioned while its easy to get to them. also have a look at your axles and boots while they are out.
yes, kit comes with everything except the flywheel, which will need resurfacing, cleaning, or replacing depending on how worn it is.
yes, kit comes with everything except the flywheel, which will need resurfacing, cleaning, or replacing depending on how worn it is.
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I have a friend who has a EX, he said his is to the point where it knocks when the clutch is out. I think that is when it can start damaging the shaft. Hopefully by this summer it won't get to that point.
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Just think... whenever the clutch pedal is out with the engine running, whether you're moving or not, the input shaft (main shaft) is turning at the same RPM as the engine. The bearing noise will get worse if you don't replace it, and WILL eventually cause catastrophic failure in your transmission... and probably the engine too. Don't risk it, just replace the bearing and move on! Once you remove the trans once or twice, it'll become second-nature. My second time pulling the trans took me all of an hour. And another hour to reinstall once the bearing was replaced. And I haven't had a problem since. When I bought my exedy clutch kit and flywheel (for my 94 EH9), I ordered a pilot bearing just in case, but the flywheel already had one installed. Amazon Prime is your friend. Use it, love it.
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Just think... whenever the clutch pedal is out with the engine running, whether you're moving or not, the input shaft (main shaft) is turning at the same RPM as the engine. The bearing noise will get worse if you don't replace it, and WILL eventually cause catastrophic failure in your transmission... and probably the engine too. Don't risk it, just replace the bearing and move on! Once you remove the trans once or twice, it'll become second-nature. My second time pulling the trans took me all of an hour. And another hour to reinstall once the bearing was replaced. And I haven't had a problem since. When I bought my exedy clutch kit and flywheel (for my 94 EH9), I ordered a pilot bearing just in case, but the flywheel already had one installed. Amazon Prime is your friend. Use it, love it.
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If the shaft breaks you're better off swapping the whole transmission (and put a new bearing in that used one before installing). Also if you drive until complete failure, you're stranded on the road needing a tow.
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Re: 1997 Civic DX Clutch Sound?
Alright, thanks for the help. Don't think im gonna buy the engine and tranny off my friend, to many problems.
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