HONDA !!!!! LOOK AT THIS !!!!!
11-24-2006, 05:29 AM
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HONDA !!!!! LOOK AT THIS !!!!!
Service Bulletin
© 2006 American Honda Motor Co., Inc. – All Rights Reserved ATB 34101 (0611) 1 of 1
CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools, equipment,
and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and you should not assume
this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this information applies, contact an
authorized Honda automobile dealer.
November 21, 2006
06-08
Applies To: See VEHICLES AFFECTED
Warranty Extension: Vehicle Warranty Mileage
BACKGROUND
On November 7, 2006, a federal court preliminarily
approved the settlement of a class action lawsuit that
alleged the odometers on certain 2002 through 2006
Honda models, and some 2007 Fit models, were
overstating mileage. As part of the settlement,
American Honda has proposed extending the mileage
based coverage period of all warranties and Honda
Care Service Contracts by five percent (5%).
The time limits for all warranties are unchanged.
The proposed settlement has only been
preliminarily approved. American Honda will not
provide the benefits described above until the
court issues a final approval. The final approval
hearing is currently scheduled for May 30, 2007.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
The vehicles affected by this settlement include certain
2002 through 2006 Honda models and some 2007 Fit
models purchased or leased between April 13, 2002
and November 7, 2006 in the United States (including
the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the U.S.
Virgin Islands). Vehicles registered to customers with a
military or a NATO address are also affected by this
settlement.
CUSTOMER NOTIFICATION
The court will notify affected customers by mail. The
mailed notice will be sent to original registered
purchasers, and will inform them of the terms of the
proposed settlement. Notices will start mailing on
November 27, 2006, with the final mailing occurring no
later than March 26, 2007. Notices of the proposed
settlement will also be published in a national
newspaper.
To view the content of the mailed notice, as well as
other documents regarding the proposed settlement, or
for additional information, please refer to the following:
Website: http://www.odosettlementinfo.com
Information Center: (888) 888-3082
CORRECTIVE ACTION
If finalized on May 30, 2007, the settlement will require
you to honor the extended mileage coverage period of
all warranties, and Honda Care Service Contracts, by
five percent (5%). This service bulletin will be updated
with specific terms and conditions.
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
Until the settlement is finalized, all normal warranty
time and mileage limits are still valid. In addition, any
repair performed after warranty expiration may be
eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts
and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must
request consideration, and get a decision, before
starting work.
November 21, 2006
Dear Service Manager:
On November 7, 2006, American Honda agreed to the terms of a class action settlement regarding an
odometer calculation variance. If finalized, the settlement will affect certain 2002–06 Honda
automobiles and some 2007 Fits purchased from April 13, 2002 thru November 7, 2006. The
settlement is due to be finalized on May 30, 2007. Until we notify you of the finalized settlement, no
action on your part is required.
If finalized on May 30, 2007, the settlement will require a five percent mileage extension for several
vehicle warranties. A matrix of these warranties will be added to service bulletin 06-085 when it is
revised on or about May 30, 2007. The time limits for all warranties are unchanged.
Until the settlement is finalized, all normal warranty time and mileage limits are still valid. In addition,
any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District
Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision,
before starting work. Do not deny warranty coverage simply because the customer is a class member.
Customer Notification
Original purchasers of affected vehicles will receive a court notification of the class action. These
notifications will be mailed over the next four months. Owners of affected vehicles who were not the
original purchasers will not receive a notification letter. These owners will be notified of the class action
through public press announcements. To view the content of the notification letter and other documents
regarding the settlement, go to http://www.odosettlementinfo.com.
Please direct all customer inquiries to http://www.odosettlementinfo.com, or have customers call
888-888-3082.
Sincerely,
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Honda Automobile Division
© 2006 American Honda Motor Co., Inc. – All Rights Reserved ATB 34101 (0611) 1 of 1
CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools, equipment,
and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and you should not assume
this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this information applies, contact an
authorized Honda automobile dealer.
November 21, 2006
06-08
Applies To: See VEHICLES AFFECTED
Warranty Extension: Vehicle Warranty Mileage
BACKGROUND
On November 7, 2006, a federal court preliminarily
approved the settlement of a class action lawsuit that
alleged the odometers on certain 2002 through 2006
Honda models, and some 2007 Fit models, were
overstating mileage. As part of the settlement,
American Honda has proposed extending the mileage
based coverage period of all warranties and Honda
Care Service Contracts by five percent (5%).
The time limits for all warranties are unchanged.
The proposed settlement has only been
preliminarily approved. American Honda will not
provide the benefits described above until the
court issues a final approval. The final approval
hearing is currently scheduled for May 30, 2007.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
The vehicles affected by this settlement include certain
2002 through 2006 Honda models and some 2007 Fit
models purchased or leased between April 13, 2002
and November 7, 2006 in the United States (including
the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the U.S.
Virgin Islands). Vehicles registered to customers with a
military or a NATO address are also affected by this
settlement.
CUSTOMER NOTIFICATION
The court will notify affected customers by mail. The
mailed notice will be sent to original registered
purchasers, and will inform them of the terms of the
proposed settlement. Notices will start mailing on
November 27, 2006, with the final mailing occurring no
later than March 26, 2007. Notices of the proposed
settlement will also be published in a national
newspaper.
To view the content of the mailed notice, as well as
other documents regarding the proposed settlement, or
for additional information, please refer to the following:
Website: http://www.odosettlementinfo.com
Information Center: (888) 888-3082
CORRECTIVE ACTION
If finalized on May 30, 2007, the settlement will require
you to honor the extended mileage coverage period of
all warranties, and Honda Care Service Contracts, by
five percent (5%). This service bulletin will be updated
with specific terms and conditions.
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
Until the settlement is finalized, all normal warranty
time and mileage limits are still valid. In addition, any
repair performed after warranty expiration may be
eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts
and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must
request consideration, and get a decision, before
starting work.
November 21, 2006
Dear Service Manager:
On November 7, 2006, American Honda agreed to the terms of a class action settlement regarding an
odometer calculation variance. If finalized, the settlement will affect certain 2002–06 Honda
automobiles and some 2007 Fits purchased from April 13, 2002 thru November 7, 2006. The
settlement is due to be finalized on May 30, 2007. Until we notify you of the finalized settlement, no
action on your part is required.
If finalized on May 30, 2007, the settlement will require a five percent mileage extension for several
vehicle warranties. A matrix of these warranties will be added to service bulletin 06-085 when it is
revised on or about May 30, 2007. The time limits for all warranties are unchanged.
Until the settlement is finalized, all normal warranty time and mileage limits are still valid. In addition,
any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District
Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision,
before starting work. Do not deny warranty coverage simply because the customer is a class member.
Customer Notification
Original purchasers of affected vehicles will receive a court notification of the class action. These
notifications will be mailed over the next four months. Owners of affected vehicles who were not the
original purchasers will not receive a notification letter. These owners will be notified of the class action
through public press announcements. To view the content of the notification letter and other documents
regarding the settlement, go to http://www.odosettlementinfo.com.
Please direct all customer inquiries to http://www.odosettlementinfo.com, or have customers call
888-888-3082.
Sincerely,
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Honda Automobile Division
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11-24-2006, 01:28 PM
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Re: HONDA !!!!! LOOK AT THIS !!!!! (Type X)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type X »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GOod to know for the other honda's we have
for my 06.... i'll be over the warranty by the end of 07 lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
same here for my 06. 18,500+ miles since the end of feb, 06
for my 06.... i'll be over the warranty by the end of 07 lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
same here for my 06. 18,500+ miles since the end of feb, 06
11-24-2006, 03:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Demonis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wouldn't this technically mean that the fuel economy on the vehicles would also be falsely represented?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda doesn't calculate that, the EPA does.
Honda doesn't calculate that, the EPA does.
11-24-2006, 03:25 PM
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Re: (nsxmatt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda doesn't calculate that, the EPA does.</TD></TR></TABLE>
But wouldnt they calculate it by figures input on the dash and testing?
If they were that meticulous they would have noticed differences during testing no?
But wouldnt they calculate it by figures input on the dash and testing?
If they were that meticulous they would have noticed differences during testing no?
11-24-2006, 03:31 PM
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Re: (Type X)
EPA calculates simulated driving conditions in a lab, not on the road in a real car. Besides the mileage change would be equal to a 1/2 mile per fill up, not enough to change any type of fuel mileage.
11-24-2006, 03:41 PM
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Re: (nsxmatt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EPA calculates simulated driving conditions in a lab, not on the road in a real car. Besides the mileage change would be equal to a 1/2 mile per fill up, not enough to change any type of fuel mileage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Weird.
I would think that it would be nearly impossible to replicate everyday driving condtions "in a lab"
but i'm just a bank treasurer
Weird.
I would think that it would be nearly impossible to replicate everyday driving condtions "in a lab"
but i'm just a bank treasurer
11-24-2006, 04:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type X »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Weird.
I would think that it would be nearly impossible to replicate everyday driving condtions "in a lab"
but i'm just a bank treasurer</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's why peoples MPG always vary from the EPA rating on the sticker and also why they say acceptable mileage ranges from sometimes 10 mpg either way in city or hwy driving. They are soon to change the way they do testing to the point where cars like they Civic hybrid will read closer to 36-38 mpg down from the inflated 50+mpg listed on the sticker.
In any case the class action lawsuit is no big deal as there are tons of them out there. You will notice a similar change in mileage by running on long periods of time on worn tires which are 1/2 inch smaller diameter. No big deal.
I would think that it would be nearly impossible to replicate everyday driving condtions "in a lab"
but i'm just a bank treasurer
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's why peoples MPG always vary from the EPA rating on the sticker and also why they say acceptable mileage ranges from sometimes 10 mpg either way in city or hwy driving. They are soon to change the way they do testing to the point where cars like they Civic hybrid will read closer to 36-38 mpg down from the inflated 50+mpg listed on the sticker.
In any case the class action lawsuit is no big deal as there are tons of them out there. You will notice a similar change in mileage by running on long periods of time on worn tires which are 1/2 inch smaller diameter. No big deal.
11-24-2006, 11:52 PM
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Re: HONDA !!!!! LOOK AT THIS !!!!! (elklodgeez)
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11-25-2006, 02:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRE_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you getting this information through Honda iN ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes i saw it in IN... its official
Yes i saw it in IN... its official
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30K, 3yr basic warranty
Weird I havent noticed anything yet. Both my gps and Instrumental panel must be off if this were to be true.
Perhaps it's just 1 mile off every 10K.
Weird I havent noticed anything yet. Both my gps and Instrumental panel must be off if this were to be true.
Perhaps it's just 1 mile off every 10K.
11-26-2006, 03:04 PM
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Re: (Striker_1818)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Striker_1818 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">30K, 3yr basic warranty
Weird I havent noticed anything yet. Both my gps and Instrumental panel must be off if this were to be true.
Perhaps it's just 1 mile off every 10K.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's 3/36 warranty. And yes the mileage is that minor that most people won't notice. Honda just would rather give a 5% addition in mileage coverage to pacify the lawyers. It's not a big deal for them as they usually goodwill most items that far past warranty expiration.
Weird I havent noticed anything yet. Both my gps and Instrumental panel must be off if this were to be true.
Perhaps it's just 1 mile off every 10K.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's 3/36 warranty. And yes the mileage is that minor that most people won't notice. Honda just would rather give a 5% addition in mileage coverage to pacify the lawyers. It's not a big deal for them as they usually goodwill most items that far past warranty expiration.
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