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Old 01-10-2012, 04:13 PM
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06 Civic Coupe with 108,000 miles. Standard tranny. Son's car. Yesterday he mentioned that the rpms were running high (could hear the engine rev excessively at almost any speed).

I test drove and it seems the clutch engages any time the engine runs above idle. In other words, if I depress clutch and slip into 1st gear then slowly release clutch, the car moves as normal as the clutch pedal nears full release. But when I press accelerator, the engine revs as if I'm pressing clutch also (at least partially).

Shop says it's worn clutch and it's $1,000 parts and labor. I would have expected a worn clutch to make if difficult to shift (unable to grip flywheel and slow it down for gear change) but not this. Does a worn clutch engage all the time?

Do you agree this is worn clutch or some type of adjustment or mastercylinder problem?
Old 01-10-2012, 06:58 PM
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sound like it needs a new clutch. if its the oem clutch with 103k miles be happy you got that far. but the 1k for the job and parts is a little high. i would shop around
Old 01-11-2012, 06:52 AM
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The parts cost me 135 bucks for an oem unit for my 2006 Si your clutch should be less.

I was quoted 1200 for the 6 speed rebuild and at that time ask them to install my clutch so 1000 for a clutch job only is ridiculous.

It is not a fun job, but then again most clutches are not as much fun as they used to be.
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Originally Posted by 06 Civic CJ
I would have expected a worn clutch to make if difficult to shift (unable to grip flywheel and slow it down for gear change) but not this.
A worn/slipping clutch wont cause shifting issues. It also doesn't really work that way, the clutch grips the flywheel to transmit power to the transmission. The sychronizers in the transmission slow down the gears to allow gear changes.

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Does a worn clutch engage all the time?
A worn clutch slips, which is basically exactly what it sounds like. If it was engaged all the time you wouldn't be able to shift (other than to float the gears) and if you started the car in gear it would immediately start moving, even with the clutch pedal depressed.

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Do you agree this is worn clutch or some type of adjustment or mastercylinder problem?
Worn out clutch, no question. If it's slipping like that the flywheel will need to be resurface or depending on how bad it is replaced, it's also very good time to change the rear main seal on the engine since it's cheap (about $30 for the seal) and with the clutch and transmission out it involves almost no extra labor.
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A worn/slipping clutch wont cause shifting issues. It also doesn't really work that way, the clutch grips the flywheel to transmit power to the transmission. The sychronizers in the transmission slow down the gears to allow gear changes.



A worn clutch slips, which is basically exactly what it sounds like. If it was engaged all the time you wouldn't be able to shift (other than to float the gears) and if you started the car in gear it would immediately start moving, even with the clutch pedal depressed.



Worn out clutch, no question. If it's slipping like that the flywheel will need to be resurface or depending on how bad it is replaced, it's also very good time to change the rear main seal on the engine since it's cheap (about $30 for the seal) and with the clutch and transmission out it involves almost no extra labor.
Then why does shifting at higher RPM wear the clutch faster? It does help slow the motor down, to match it to the speed of the tranny.
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Then why does shifting at higher RPM wear the clutch faster? It does help slow the motor down, to match it to the speed of the tranny.
More power at higher RPM. The more you slip a clutch the quicker you'll go through it, it's as simple as that.
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Thanks to all for the replies...
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
More power at higher RPM. The more you slip a clutch the quicker you'll go through it, it's as simple as that.
So more power = more slipping? Why does it slip?
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So more power = more slipping? Why does it slip?
It slips because the disc is worn past the service limit. Ever drive on ice? Take off easy and what happens? You move forward. Mash the fuel peddle and what happens? You sit there spinning. Same concept.

In terms of why does it wear quicker at high RPM, like I said more power, heat, etc. A clutch disc is made up of similar material to brake pads, try hard high speed braking on a regular basis and pads wont last, same thing goes with high RPM shifting all the time.
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i say buy the parts and do it your self!!! what $200 tops for parts AND GOJO!
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i work at honda 1 day though the week, and $1000 dollars is normal for parts and labour. your best best is to look around. honda is very very expensive. but i have to say that it is a fair price though. i mean i got the parts guy at honda to look up how much an SI Shift **** would cost me..$300.00! like WTF. but i would look around if i were you.
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
It slips because the disc is worn past the service limit. Ever drive on ice? Take off easy and what happens? You move forward. Mash the fuel peddle and what happens? You sit there spinning. Same concept.

In terms of why does it wear quicker at high RPM, like I said more power, heat, etc. A clutch disc is made up of similar material to brake pads, try hard high speed braking on a regular basis and pads wont last, same thing goes with high RPM shifting all the time.
You're not making any sense. So you agree that the clutch wears faster if you shift at higher RPM, than if you shift at lower RPM?
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Default Re: 2006 Civic Clutch Problem

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You're not making any sense.
I'm making perfect sense.

Originally Posted by vladd
So you agree that the clutch wears faster if you shift at higher RPM, than if you shift at lower RPM?
Yes.
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