pos94accord

I tried searching, to no avail. I have to replace the rear main seal, cause it is shot, (already replace the oil pan gasket) I don't have a lift, so I am thinking it would be easier to take the engine out instead of taking the tranny out. Since I will be doing this I want to go ahead and do the most basic rebuild.
I have never done a rebuild and will do everything that is possible with out a shop (obviously the machine work will have to be done at a shop) but I am wondering will I have to get machineing (sp?) done? Will I just need a "rebuild kit," with pistons rings and gaskets, or what? I have no performace aspirations higher than stock, just fingure a rebuild now with the engine out would save some heartache in the future.
I appreaciate any help offered in advance.

4671 Hybird

How's the engine running now? Is this a piece of mind type thing or does it legitimately need a rebuild? When I priced mine, I found it was cheaper to buy a JDM motor from a trusted importer than it was to source parts, get the head machined, etc.

pos94accord

It is running and that is about all that I can say, I mean when you give it more than half throttle it taps, and it just seems really ragged out compared to the other stock f22b2's that I have driven. I can't even tell you how many miles are on it, the speedo/odo don't really work that often but I know that it is way over 150k

4671 Hybird

That being said, I'd just source a JDM (about $400) and swap it in rather than rebuilding your current motor. Caveat: This answer assumes you don't have an affordable machine shop and you're not looking to make more power.

ronqqq

JDM is the way to go. I rebuilt a f22b about three years ago at a cost of close to $1000.00..

Next car I put a JDM engine in.. http://www.tigerjapanese.com/
These guys did me right!!

pos94accord

When you get a jdm is it just plug and play, meaning take out the old engine put in the new, keep the same computer.
And wow are you serious, only 400 bucks, is this short, long or fully assembled. or just the block?

f22vtecswap

if you wanted to avoid spending that much money, the seal is less than 10 bucks i think. i dropped my tranny in my driveway in about two hours. just take out the axles, tranny mount, rear mount, front mount and lower the motor pivoting it on the left mount. there are obviously some other things to be disconnected (shift cables..) and drop the trans out the bottom, its a one saturday job. you can do it without even having to bleed the clutch. lol just make sure you have someone to help you guide the trans back on the motor

4671 Hybird

$400 was for fully assembled off of Ebay. I was in DC and had to drive to Philly to get it so that doesn't account for the 4 hour round trip or gas. But, there are definitely deals out there to be had, I would also looked for a wrecked car and pull the engine. I've gone that route as well and it worked out beautifully. After parting the car over a weekend and selling the parts over the course of a month, I ended up a couple hundred ahead.

4671 Hybird

Also, 94-97 Odyssey motors also fit, just be aware that the later models had a Crankshaft position sensor but that can be easily remedied.

GhostAccord

All F22B1-2s have CKP sensors (Crankshaft Position). It's just that the "later" engines (OBD2, 96-Up) have the TDC & CKP sensors located down on the oil pump housing. Where as the earlier engines (OBD1 90-95) have them located in the distributor. The above post is correct in saying that there is a work around and it can be rewired.

As for the JDM engines being plug-n-play, that all depends on what you consider plug-n-play. All JDM F22 engines (SOHC VTEC aka B1, SOHC Non VTEC aka B2, & DOHC no USDM counterpart) use internal coil distributors with a different connector setup. That is one thing you have to figure out. Other than that they drop right in.

pos94accord

huh, I have learned quite a bit this weekend. i appreciate it all fellas. I don't think that I am going to just do the sill, as much as I would like to have it stop leaking right now, I am just going to let it ride. I want a new engine, so I will just bid my time. Also, I appreciate all of the info about the engines, I will try the local pick-n-pull route first then look online. I will start a post when this all begins, as I am sure you all know that the haynes guide leaves alot of info out for some assembly and dissassebly.

4671 Hybird

Ghost,
Thanks for cleaning up my post, you're exactly right about the location of the CKP's. As far as the internal coil distributor, I just swapped my distributor from the old engine when I did my swap and I was good to go.

baceman007

I just finished an F22B2 rebuild on my 1997 Accord. I used a DNJ kit. I really rebuilt it to gain the exprience I needed to rebuild a K-Series to put into a 1993 delSol. So, if I did it again I'd go straight to Honda for the parts if I could. The DNJ kit was ok.... The parts just felt kind of cheap, but eventually went in. I'd give it 3 out of 5 stars. So it's a good deal if you want to limp something through for a few more miles. I, learn, etc. took notes on my experience here. Hope this helps others out. I know the last comment was from a long time ago. 1997 Accord Engine Rebuild Notes | Broken Hive Mind

beaterproject

Does the f22b dohc head fit on an f22b2 block without any modification? and if so what kind of work am i looking at when it comes to wiring or a different ecu?