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I've never heard that. I'm pretty sure I have seen 22x10 on a car, so maybe you mean your car specifically. But I don't know what type of car you have. I have had 18x7.5 wheels on my 97 Integra that is lowered 2 1/4". It did rub at full turn or high speed potholes. Nobody told me I couldn't though. Offset plays a big role on what will work for you as well. I also had 17x7.5 on otherwise stock 88 Prelude with no issues (other than it looked like a 4-wheeler).
Integra back when I thought it needed 18"x7.5" wheels:
Thanks for the feed back guys i have a 2000 Honda accord lx i'm thinking of doing 17x7.5 just wanted to hear some feed back don't want to waste my money on the wrong rims
It will work fine. I had the same wheels on my Integra in the pic on my old 2000 Accord (5speed 4x114) and it was lowered about 3". Is your car lowered? What size tires are you planning on?
I prefer a bigger tire. I would do 45 if you have enough clearance. With 17"s it might be okay though. 40's don't last long it seems like and 35's I wouldn't do on anything I had to drive often.
low to mid 30's offset would be the OEM spec... but in my opinion a 7in wide wheel with a high offset like that doesn't look very good. If you're going to go with a high offset like that I'd run at LEAST a 8.5in wheel in front and a 9-9.5in wheel in the rear. You'll have plenty of clearance in both directions especially with little to no drop (lowering)
The stock offset on a 94 Accord is +45. It is a little more on the Gen 6, around +55 I think. I have run 7" and 8" wide runs with offsets from +38 to + 45 and depending on the size of the tires, the +38's on the front will touch the fender on turns. That is with a 215 tire. My current setup is with 17x8 +45 on the front and 17x8 +40 on the rear. I use 215/45 on the front and 225/45 on the rear. It has been lowered about 1 1/2 inches and I don't have any tire interference. Anything more and I would have to think about rolling the fenders.
The stock offset on a 94 Accord is +45. It is a little more on the Gen 6, around +55 I think. I have run 7" and 8" wide runs with offsets from +38 to + 45 and depending on the size of the tires, the +38's on the front will touch the fender on turns. That is with a 215 tire. My current setup is with 17x8 +45 on the front and 17x8 +40 on the rear. I use 215/45 on the front and 225/45 on the rear. It has been lowered about 1 1/2 inches and I don't have any tire interference. Anything more and I would have to think about rolling the fenders.
WOW! I stand corrected.... I didn't know that the OEM offset of 5th gens was THAT high? Now with that said I can't imagine how you're getting rubbing with such high offsets unless your using some pretty large tires? Or maybe a pretty soft suspension setup? Right now my setup is 16x8 +15 with 195/50 (rear) and 205/45 (front) on a 2-2.5in drop (cheapo springs/KYB shocks), no camber kit, nothing like that (but there's quite a bit of natural camber on a 2-2.5in drop) and to me it looks like a Monster Truck!.. due to the gap between the tires and the fender. But I've NEVER rubbed a fender (although I do scrape the dp and cat all the time)!? And now I have a new set ready to go on when the weather gets better that are 17x9 +20 which will be running with a mild stretch but even those don't "fill" the fender gap so I just can't Imagine rubbing in the fender region with those either? But I'll guess we'll soon find out!? Lol!
You will have to go out and take some measurements yourself. Not really all that hard. I've done it for three of my vehicles in the past 2 years. This tool is great for maxing out the rim and tire sizes.
Ether that or go to CARiD/Tirerack and pick a rim size and offset, it will show you what tires will fit without modification. If it isn't in the list, it will require outer or inner fender modifications to fit.
WOW! I stand corrected.... I didn't know that the OEM offset of 5th gens was THAT high? Now with that said I can't imagine how you're getting rubbing with such high offsets unless your using some pretty large tires? Or maybe a pretty soft suspension setup? Right now my setup is 16x8 +15 with 195/50 (rear) and 205/45 (front) on a 2-2.5in drop (cheapo springs/KYB shocks), no camber kit, nothing like that (but there's quite a bit of natural camber on a 2-2.5in drop) and to me it looks like a Monster Truck!.. due to the gap between the tires and the fender. But I've NEVER rubbed a fender (although I do scrape the dp and cat all the time)!? And now I have a new set ready to go on when the weather gets better that are 17x9 +20 which will be running with a mild stretch but even those don't "fill" the fender gap so I just can't Imagine rubbing in the fender region with those either? But I'll guess we'll soon find out!? Lol!
You need some bigger tires on those 16s. Those are like Civic sized tires....on an Accord you'd want something more like 215 or 225/50/16. Your wheel gap is partially due to running those smaller tires. Not to mention your speedometer is pretty inaccurate with those tire sizes.
Try running a proper sized tire with 17x9 +20. Its gonna rub, A LOT. I had 17x9 +20s a few years back with 215/45/17 tires, and it rubbed in the rear (fenders are rolled too).
Now I'm running a 235/40/17 on my 17x9 +23 Volk CE28Ns. I have my front fenders spaced out so I can run them without rubbing.
If you want something purely functional to run the maximum tire size, 17x9 +35 to +40 is what you want. Here is a previous setup of mine.....17x9 all around +40 front, +35 rear. 245/40/17s all around and zero rubbing no matter how hard I pushed the car.
You need some bigger tires on those 16s. Those are like Civic sized tires....on an Accord you'd want something more like 215 or 225/50/16. Your wheel gap is partially due to running those smaller tires. Not to mention your speedometer is pretty inaccurate with those tire sizes.
Try running a proper sized tire with 17x9 +20. Its gonna rub, A LOT. I had 17x9 +20s a few years back with 215/45/17 tires, and it rubbed in the rear (fenders are rolled too).
Now I'm running a 235/40/17 on my 17x9 +23 Volk CE28Ns. I have my front fenders spaced out so I can run them without rubbing. If you want something purely functional to run the maximum tire size, 17x9 +35 to +40 is what you want. Here is a previous setup of mine.....17x9 all around +40 front, +35 rear. 245/40/17s all around and zero rubbing no matter how hard I pushed the car.
I fk'n LOVE the way your car looks on those Volks Cw!
I know I'm running pretty small tires for an 8in rim but surprisingly you can barely tell they're stretched at all? I guess it depends what brand/model tire they are too though. And I know when I put the new wheels on I'll have to do a decent amount of stretching, I didn't really take that into account when I replied to the OP. I am curious what you meant by "front fenders spaced out"? Can you plz elaborate on that? And do you have any rubbing at all now with your current setup? And what's going on with your suspension, if anything? PM me your reply maybe?...so not to derail/thread-jack this any further. Thx.
These are Enkei 17x8 rims with a +45 offset on the front and a +40 on the rear. Tires are Continental 215/45/17 fronts, and 225/45/17 rears. I would like to go to 235/40 on the front but I am not sure they will clear the fender. I had +38 offset on the front once and it was a problem when turning into a parking lot or side street with an incline. The roads around here are most of the problem.
These are Enkei 17x8 rims with a +45 offset on the front and a +40 on the rear. Tires are Continental 215/45/17 fronts, and 225/45/17 rears. I would like to go to 235/40 on the front but I am not sure they will clear the fender. I had +38 offset on the front once and it was a problem when turning into a parking lot or side street with an incline. The roads around here are most of the problem.
Are your front fenders rolled? Cuz you can go much more aggressive if they are.
Are your front fenders rolled? Cuz you can go much more aggressive if they are.
So I just read thru you're "lengthy" ( heheehee) build log over on H-S and I personally thought your 17x9 +20 setup looked GREAT man! And iirc you were even planning to go 17x9 +20 squared so I'm surprised you said earlier that you were rubbing bro? Can I just ask how much you had the car lowered at that time? Were you just on springs then or was that after you got your GC coilovers? I only ask this because I really don't feel like 17x9's with a +20-25 offset is very aggressive at all on the CD chassis.... It's almost the "standard" size for anybody going for a lowered and slightly "stanced" look on our chassis, is it not? I mean look at guys like iakona and it is i B*tches, or Zak325 that are running 18x10-11's, granted they run higher offsets and camber but my point is THAT is aggressive. I think 17x9 @+20 with the right size tires shouldn't be much of an issue?...albeit of course, that being dependent on the amount of drop and spring rate, etc...
Here's a pic of hahaha38's car (hope you don't mind bro?) and it's sitting on 18x8.5's @+35. Now I know this isn't the best angle to see it but there's definitely some room to play still in the rear. It's also dropped a good bit on D2 coilovers. This pic is just for reference for the OP and everyone questioning what will/will not fit.
Last edited by LeeMajors19082; 02-19-2017 at 09:49 AM.
So I just read thru you're "lengthy" ( heheehee) build log over on H-S and I personally thought your 17x9 +20 setup looked GREAT man! And iirc you were even planning to go 17x9 +20 squared so I'm surprised you said earlier that you were rubbing bro? Can I just ask how much you had the car lowered at that time? Were you just on springs then or was that after you got your GC coilovers? I only ask this because I really don't feel like 17x9's with a +20-25 offset is very aggressive at all on the CD chassis.... It's almost the "standard" size for anybody going for a lowered and slightly "stanced" look on our chassis, is it not? I mean look at guys like iakona and it is i B*tches, or Zak325 that are running 18x10-11's, granted they run higher offsets and camber but my point is THAT is aggressive. I think 17x9 @+20 with the right size tires shouldn't be much of an issue?...albeit of course, that being dependent on the amount of drop and spring rate, etc...
I say aggressive when you take into account no camber kits, or any work to fit the wheels. Just coilovers, rolled fenders (no pull), natural camber, and the wheels. I also was running a 215/45 tire, but being Federal brand, they run very wide and actually measured closer to 225. So they didn't stretch very much on the wheels. Also, all my rubbing was on one side. When you don't have camber kits, the camber settings side to side can be quite off. In my case, one side had -2.1 degrees of camber, and the other side had -3.1 degrees. So a whole degree off. And that's why one side rubbed. Obviously once you start putting work into the car to fit wider wheels, all those numbers go out the window.
Originally Posted by LeeMajors19082
Here's a pic of hahaha38's car (hope you don't mind bro?) and it's sitting on 18x8.5's @+35. Now I know this isn't the best angle to see it but there's definitely some room to play still in the rear. It's also dropped a good bit on D2 coilovers. This pic is just for reference for the OP and everyone questioning what will/will not fit.
x8.5 +35 isn't crazy at all. It fits the same as a x9 +41, or a x8 +29. With natural camber, you will have a little room to play with.
On my car, I don't have a front camber kit, so the front just sits where it is. For the rear though, with my functional setups, I've always adjusted the negative camber between -1.5 to -2, to help fill in the wheel wheels a bit more (especially on my Volks since, I'm reverse staggered.
What it comes down to though, is what you want. If you want as wide tires as you can fit for more grip, you have to sacrifice some offset. Where as if you don't care about handling as much, then you have more freedom to play with smaller tire sizes, and opens up the wheel specs you can fit on the car.
I'm a grip guy pure and simple. Once you do some hard driving with good tires, its hard to go back. Plus having the car at a functional height, and not worrying about small dips, potholes, bumps, or rubbing is a great feeling.
I say aggressive when you take into account no camber kits, or any work to fit the wheels. Just coilovers, rolled fenders (no pull), natural camber, and the wheels. I also was running a 215/45 tire, but being Federal brand, they run very wide and actually measured closer to 225. So they didn't stretch very much on the wheels.Also, all my rubbing was on one side. When you don't have camber kits, the camber settings side to side can be quite off. In my case, one side had -2.1 degrees of camber, and the other side had -3.1 degrees. So a whole degree off. And that's why one side rubbed. Obviously once you start putting work into the car to fit wider wheels, all those numbers go out the window.
WOW!? I had no idea about this!? But now that I think about it, that definitely explains some things. I think one of our other members on H-S has a set of Ingalls for sale right now at a great price, I might need to grab those? And I know what you're saying about the Federals, and just different tire brands in general, even though there is a "Standard" for listing the dimensions of their tires, there doesn't appear to be a standard by which each manufacturer measures them...?
Originally Posted by 1996accordlx
I'm a grip guy pure and simple. Once you do some hard driving with good tires, its hard to go back. Plus having the car at a functional height, and not worrying about small dips, potholes, bumps, or rubbing is a great feeling.
I can absolutely dig that bro! Especially where I live! As a matter of fact when I first realized that Zak325 lived in my area I was SHOCKED!? And immediately realized that it'd be impossible to have a vehicle like that without running air bags, no matter where he lived (except maybe Florida?), but especially where we're at... The roads around here are just plain horrendous. My car isn't even that low overall and everytime I go out it's like driving through an obstacle coure! I can't tell you how many times I've hammered my FMIC already, or bottomed out my DP?! So my point is I can totally appreciate what you're saying here^^^
rim measurements
01-28-2017, 04:19 PM
Re: rim measurements
heheehee) build log over on H-S and I personally thought your 17x9 +20 setup looked GREAT man! And iirc you were even planning to go 17x9 +20 squared so I'm surprised you said earlier that you were rubbing bro? Can I just ask how much you had the car lowered at that time? Were you just on springs then or was that after you got your GC coilovers? I only ask this because I really don't feel like 17x9's with a +20-25 offset is very aggressive at all on the CD chassis.... It's almost the "standard" size for anybody going for a lowered and slightly "stanced" look on our chassis, is it not? I mean look at guys like iakona and it is i B*tches, or Zak325 that are running 18x10-11's, granted they run higher offsets and camber but my point is THAT is aggressive. I think 17x9 @+20 with the right size tires shouldn't be much of an issue?...albeit of course, that being dependent on the amount of drop and spring rate, etc...
