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p1457 need help!!!!!

Old 07-10-2013, 09:46 AM
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Alright guys I need some help. My GF's 98 accord ex 4cyl currently has the p1457 code. I know it involves the evap system, I just replaced the evap canister, ventshut valve, 2 way valve and bypass solenoid but the check engine light turned back on after 30 miles of driving. What do you guys recommend I change next If I am correct theres another part on top of the gas tank and one under the hood. Not exactly sure what they were called but would those parts cause that code. Or is she looking at the worst case scenario and the ecu fried when one of the parts I changed failed. Oh and when I took the 2 way valve/bypass solenoid out it was saturated with fuel inside of them.
Old 07-10-2013, 10:09 AM
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There are 4 pages worth of testing for this code, systematically replacing parts in the entire system is a very expensive way to fix this issue.

Here is a post that I found that might help you out.
Originally Posted by JimBlake
Now what you REALLY need is the Helm shop manual for your car. I got this from mine, which goes for '98&'99 Accord. I posted this for someone else a little while ago, so copy/paste.... here goes.

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P1457 won't make the car run bad at all. It just means the EVAP canister & the related system of hoses & valves isn't airtight.

Check this stuff in this order. As soon as you find something that doesn't behave like it should, fix or replace it. Then hope it was the only thing wrong with the system...

Some background for the electrical troubleshooting:
All the solenoid valves have constant +12v supply from the main relay. When the ECM wants to energize a valve, it closes the ground side of it's circuit. If the +12v supply is broken, then the ECM can't energize the valve. If the wire to the ECM is shorted to ground, then the valve is energized even when the ECM doesn't want it to be.

EVAP Purge Control valve - between intake manifold & valve cover.
Valve should be normally closed, so it will hold vacuum when it's not energized. Ground is supplied by pin A6 of the ECM to open the valve. So jumper pin A6 to ground, turn on the ignition, and check again - this time it should NOT hold vacuum.

EVAP 2-way valve - underneath the car roughly under the left-rear seat.
It's a little can with 3 hose barbs & a solenoid valve attached to it. Leave the connection on top, disconnect both on the side, attach MityVac to lower one. Normally open, when the solenoid valve is energized, it should hold vacuum.

EVAP Vent Shut valve - attached to the charcoal canister underneath the car.
Normaly open - when ECM closes pin A4 to ground, it should hold vacuum.

EVAP Charcoal Canister - the big can under the car, about under the left-rear seat.
Leak test: Connect all the hoses together, plug the Vent Shut valve, connect the MityVac. Pump vacuum while watching the fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor. You can read FTP sensor voltage with a scan tool, or use a voltmeter between pins A29 & C18 at the ECM. Pump down to 1.5v & it should hold that vacuum for at least 20 seconds.

EVAP 2-way valve vacuum & pressure test.
If you get this far you'll want the manual for a good picture of how to connect the hoses. Keep pumping the vacuum pump & it should stabilize between 6 & 16 mm Hg of vacuum. Then pump pressure, it should stabilize at 8 mm Hg or more of pressure.

Then there's a test of the ORVR Vent Shut valve, which is located on top of the gas tank. You check vacuum & pressure at a couple hoses alongside the fuel filler pipe. If the valve is bad you drop the gas tank to replace it...
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Stop throwing parts at the car and test it.
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Default Re: p1457 need help!!!!!

we've seen this issue so many times at this place and this is the first time i've seen that there is a tsb about it.

very nice, deadlockriff
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Could it also be the gas cap? If the cap does not seal well will this code not be generated?
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The code that is normally set for a gas tank leak (read: gas cap) is a p0440.
The p1457 is specific to the charcoal canister's sealing/holding ability.
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