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Old 04-15-2012, 08:55 AM
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I picked the old wagon up rust free for $650, with a transmission problem.
Thinking it was a simple fix, I ordered new solenoides, but that didnt fix the problem.
The car sat for along time at my parents house. While it was sitting, it got slammed on a set of Function and Form Type ones, something like a 4" drop all around. I did nothing with the car after that, untill my Dad dropped it off in my backyard in November. As he was getting off the trailer, he ripped the front bumper off. Tore all the clips and everything.
I have since then bought all brand new tools from Craftsman. Went to a junkyard and got a used transmission, its in the car, just not finished. I also made a custom OEM grill, amber coner lights, and OEM replacement bumper. The car is semi put back together, waiting on the weather to get finished.

Heres when I first picked her up.


Ordered Function and Form Type Ones.


Lowered the front over four inches.


Wasnt able to lower the rear, the rear lower mount bushings were rusted.


Replaced those lower mount bushings, lowered it over four inches.


How she sat for a few months.


Fall shot.


Up at my place, the bumper didnt make the it off the trailer.


Started to work on getting the trans out.


Old trans out, first snow. It was very light and melted.


New trans in, just not hooked up and ready to go yet.


New bumper cover, custom grill, and amber corners.









Engine
-F22A1 205xxx

Suspension/Wheels
-Function and Form Type One, over a 4" drop
-195 60 15
-Steelies

Brakes
-Stock 4 wheel disc with abs

Audio
Stock

Exterior
-OEM Silver faded paint
-Custom OEM Grill
-DEPO Amber Corner Markers
-Black Front Bumper Cover, may sticker bomb it?


Interior
-Tan cloth

Plans:
Some sort of low offset wheel set up.
Eye Lids
Redo and repaint every part of the suspension.
OEM Hood Bra
Window Visors
Grip Royal Wood Wheel/NRG Hub
Kenwood Deck
RockFord Fosgate 6.5 Speakers
RockFord Fosgate 5 Channel Amp
RockFord Fosgate SM P3 8"
Some sort of custom exhaust, intake.

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Old 04-15-2012, 11:52 AM
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You're going to keep it auto even after a swap? What?
Old 04-15-2012, 12:11 PM
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Welcome, I love my F&F type 1's.
Sounds like you've got a plan.
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Manual swap and sell me your roof rack
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Does anyone think 15's are too small for the wagon?
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Originally Posted by CRX Si69
You're going to keep it auto even after a swap? What?
My left foot is lazy, so most likely yea.
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I have 15s on my sedan. I run a wider tread because I don't like the body roll. How low are you going?
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Originally Posted by 75aces
I have 15s on my sedan. I run a wider tread because I don't like the body roll. How low are you going?
I've been thinking of tein s tech and kyb gr2 with 17" purple slips
Or function and forms down low on 15x8 or 16x8
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Dude go 5 speed...auto is so... "I can't drive a stick so I bought an auto"ish
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Dare to be different. You know what would be cool if the atts from the lude could adapt to the h22 or f22.
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I've been thinking of tein s tech and kyb gr2 with 17" purple slips
Or function and forms down low on 15x8 or 16x8
Nice setup. Never had rims larger than 15 because I personally prefer the stock look. I believe I have 15x7 with spacers. I have universal rims. Never had my car lowered either on coilovers or springs. I experienced it before, and it didn't feel right to me. Most likely its cuz I didn't care for it.
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Originally Posted by 75aces
Nice setup. Never had rims larger than 15 because I personally prefer the stock look. I believe I have 15x7 with spacers. I have universal rims. Never had my car lowered either on coilovers or springs. I experienced it before, and it didn't feel right to me. Most likely its cuz I didn't care for it.
Your opposite of me, I feel awkward when i have my stock struts in lol, I get motion sickness from the boat rocking back and forth everytime I go around corners. I do although agree with not going above 15's, 15's and *possibly* 16's at the very most look best imo
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Originally Posted by bakerskater11
Your opposite of me, I feel awkward when i have my stock struts in lol, I get motion sickness from the boat rocking back and forth everytime I go around corners. I do although agree with not going above 15's, 15's and *possibly* 16's at the very most look best imo
One improvement is reduction of body roll. I agree with the motion sickness aspect. It feels so much better when all 4 tires grip rather than throwing its weight about. Not to mention your wallet will thank you when you're not spending a grip load of money on sport rated tires.
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I'm low on f&f type ones on 15" ex wheels and am none too happy with the amount of offset gap I have.
I'm not a big fan of hellaflush but I cant stand the tuck on the wheels I have all set in with factory offset.
I am either going to find some spacers, or change wheels again, probably to something with more like a 25 offset to close the gap.

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so many options on what to do.
I might do something simple because this is my daily
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Originally Posted by dglassmyer
I'm low on f&f type ones on 15" ex wheels and am none too happy with the amount of offset gap I have.
I'm not a big fan of hellaflush but I cant stand the tuck on the wheels I have all set in with factory offset.
I am either going to find some spacers, or change wheels again, probably to something with more like a 25 offset to close the gap.
You could probably get away with .25 drop on the exsisting wheels?
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my 1.5" drop doesn't tuck much at all, barely ever scrape, and still looks decent, not monster truckin, but not slammed. But I agree on the offset, would .25 do anything?
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Nice start man. Good luck on your build.
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Originally Posted by bakerskater11
my 1.5" drop doesn't tuck much at all, barely ever scrape, and still looks decent, not monster truckin, but not slammed. But I agree on the offset, would .25 do anything?
My bad Bakerskater. My suggestion is set the height as close as possible to stock height. From there, measure the midpoint of the arch to top of tire. Alternatively, you can measure current height from the midpoint to top of tire and adjust from there. What is the goal of the 25 offset? Are you going for the wider tread to come out of the arch? I don't quite really know what the offsets on the wheel actually does.

On a side note, my sister used to have a 95 civic sedan sitting on 15x8 or 9 with 50 series tires. The gap was pretty tight and it looked lowered. The car was at stock height and she never installed any coilovers or springs. Just giving you an idea. Maybe go to a 45 or 40 series and it may close the gap?
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I wish there was more wagons.


Eibach wagon lowering springs 1.4"F 1.5"R

I was thinking of doing a rota slipstream, and doing the same drop Night Wolf did.
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Nice stance. It's simple and clean. Go for it.
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Should I stay with that drop and run. 16" purple slips?
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IMO, if you use a 50 series or bigger, I believe the gap will increase even with a drop. You may not even need no more than 3/4 to 1". Although, I don't even know what drop heights are available. LOL. I would stick with coil-overs because with springs it's more firm and create bobble head action. LOL. Rota's are a nice set. What's your budget like anyways? Maybe go with 01-02 rims from ex or exl. Si styled for accord. I'm all about stock because you don't want to create attention and potentially get stolen from you.
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prob like 2gs
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That's a nice budget for suspension and wheels. Will that include sway bars and anti roll bar for the rears? Its been a while since I last looked at wheels. Rotas are popular out here in CA. My guess is they are cheaper compared to big names like Einki. I think that's how its spelled. Anyways good luc and keep us posted with the progress and end results.

My car however is close to being done. I have put so much money just into brakes and suspension. I am contemplating retiring her when I get a newer ride. Yes she's got potential, but not sure if she'll hold out long enough for me to save money to tinker. This is by far my favorite generation of Accord hands down. Don't care what people say about an automatic.


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