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Old 05-15-2011, 04:25 PM   #1
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Has anyone had experience with both? Our 2005 Odyssey EX is going to need a new front windshield after taking a rock last week. The web price for the OEM glass is $359.27. Most aftermarket quotes are about $250 installed with the moldings included.

The windshield is integral to the airbag deployment during a crash. Is there a brand preference for aftermarket? Is this simply OEM vs ARG manufacturers? The original windshield is marked United Glass. Who else makes OEM glass for Honda and Acura?
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oem windshield replacement is free here if you have any kind of damage to it
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Bump! Because I would like to know also
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Shouldn't insurance cover windshield replacement?

I got my windshield replaced last year because of cracks from a rock. I called my insurance and they covered it at no charge to me.

I think most insurance companies cover it, if you have full coverage.
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I've always bought aftermarket glass for everything. Current windshield is aftermarket and i'm not sure if it's the glass or the installation but the rearview mirror is too high and I can't put the sunvisors down all the way anymore. (the spot they're to be adhered to is marked on the new glass) so either the entire windshield is too high or it wasn't made right. The shop is a good shop, I always deal with them if I need glass. So I'm not sure what happened.

Most glass I see is made by PPG btw.
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I had mine replaced under warranty after my neighbors mower threw a rock through it. Id go with OEM simply because you know it will work flawlessly. I wouldnt risk going with an aftermarket company when it involves something as crucial as your air bags, but i have been known to be overly cautious on occasion lol
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Shouldn't insurance cover windshield replacement?

I got my windshield replaced last year because of cracks from a rock. I called my insurance and they covered it at no charge to me.

I think most insurance companies cover it, if you have full coverage.
Insurance will pay for an ARG windshield, not an OEM.

I have been reading a bit. I'm not sure if this site is just plugging Edgeguard and Glasshield.

http://www.carwindshields.info/

Here is the article link in the link.

http://www.ultrabond.com/whywindshields.pdf

From reading those, it may be best (safer) to repair the windshield. The impact is in the lower left in the black area with about four cracks radiating from it. They are all less than 6" long.
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Last time my friend has his replaced I asked the guy what's the difference he said the only thing different is the etching in the glass says Honda or whatever they are all made from the same place used to be Pittsburgh that made most of the windshield but now a lot of them are made in China but that's what he told me so I don't know how accurate it is
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I'm not sure if my replacement was an OEM or ARG, I can't tell now because my wife totaled the car.

From the link you posted, I read that a ARG windshield can take more stress than a OEM.

IMHO, get the OEM fixed, or replaced. Don't take the chance with the cheap stuff.
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Insurance will pay for an ARG windshield, not an OEM.
i read somewhere ARG windshields have more stress levels then OEM ones. Is this true?

edit: somebody beat me to it.
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i read somewhere ARG windshields have more stress levels then OEM ones. Is this true?

edit: somebody beat me to it.
It is in those links that I posted as well. The one link discusses PPG as an OEM and ARG manufacturer. Those two products are not equivalent for stress or tolerances.

OEM also must have a 100% glass retention in a front impact. The link says that ARG only has to have 80% retention. I that some of that is simply due to the bonding of the replacement glass, which would also affect a new OEM windshield.
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Any dealer employees want to chime in and share their experiences on where a lot of dealers actually source windshields from? Hell, while you're at it, you wanna share your experiences on where they get their brake rotors from?

I think Dogginator may be in for a surprise.
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our glass at the dealer comes from whatever and whoever the glass company we use brings. we have around 3 different glass guys we use. usually the trim is OEM from us though.
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Any dealer employees want to chime in and share their experiences on where a lot of dealers actually source windshields from? Hell, while you're at it, you wanna share your experiences on where they get their brake rotors from?

I think Dogginator may be in for a surprise.
I can't speak on glass since my dealership doesn't do glass, as far as I know we contracted it out.

The other stuff though the customer had the choice of genuine Honda parts or aftermarket. I don't know how well advertised the choice was since I didn't work in the service department, but I know we did use both and it was at the customer's discretion. I also know we cursed those cheap white box bottom of the barrel aftermarket rotors that never seemed to fit right.
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the aftermarket windscreens are shoddy in quality. my civic has one and the surface is uneven on it.
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Any dealer employees want to chime in and share their experiences on where a lot of dealers actually source windshields from? Hell, while you're at it, you wanna share your experiences on where they get their brake rotors from?

I think Dogginator may be in for a surprise.
I shall have no surprises and would never buy a brake rotor from a dealer, especially a Honda or Acura dealer. From what I read, only the factory installed OEM glass meets the top quality standards for materials and installation.
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I suppose it depends on what your insurance covers. But if it is covered, OEM all the way. The cheaper ones have a higher chance of having optical distortions in them, and in my experience the cheaper ones chip easier. I had to pay $50 extra to get OEM in my last windshield replacement.
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My deductible is $1k. The full price on the OEM glass is $550. New OEM molding is $80. Insurance shall not help with this.

I would like to hear from more dealers. Like mentioned before, they most likely do not install the glass. Therefore a replacement OEM piece of glass is not are structurally sound as the original due to an installation that is not equivalent to the factory installation.

I should look at my current windshield with a polar filter to visualize the stress. Perhaps I will do this tonight.
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My deductible is $1k.
Are you sure there's a deductible for comprehensive?
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Who else makes OEM glass for Honda and Acura?
In my experience most Honda glass is made by Asahi or AGC. I am not sure where the Odyssey was built but if it was built in North America it could have another maker.

Here is another interesting site to help decode windshields-
http://www.carwindshields.info/windshieldmarkings.htm
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Are you sure there's a deductible for comprehensive?
Both collision and comprehensive deductibles are $1000. It's not a big deal, but I'll have my wife ask. I want what is most safe. If a small crack is safer than a new windshield, I'd rather go with that.

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In my experience most Honda glass is made by Asahi or AGC. I am not sure where the Odyssey was built but if it was built in North America it could have another maker.

Here is another interesting site to help decode windshields-
http://www.carwindshields.info/windshieldmarkings.htm
All North American Odysseys are made in Alabama IIRC.
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OEM usually mean zero or close to zero distortion a obtuse angles... after market means it usually ALWAYS has some level of distortion. that most of the differences I have seen over the years. not that it should mean much to you on a Odyssey.
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lol at the "claim it through insurance" answers, apparently everyone on honda-tech has a ballin insurance policy with a five dollar deductible.

I guess its easy to spend frivolously on a ballin policy with the combined income of your law practice and your super model wifeys.
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OEM usually mean zero or close to zero distortion a obtuse angles... after market means it usually ALWAYS has some level of distortion. that most of the differences I have seen over the years. not that it should mean much to you on a Odyssey.
I knew I was supposed to remember something, and I finally did. :-)

The windscreen in my track Integra is an aftermarket replacement.

It has held up well, shedding chunks of rubber and bits of track thrown at it by wide-shod Porsche Carreras and Corvettes.

But it does have a minor optical distortion here and there. It is not optically perfect.

You get used to it. It's not bad. It's just obviously not 100%.
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lol at the "claim it through insurance" answers, apparently everyone on honda-tech has a ballin insurance policy with a five dollar deductible.

I guess its easy to spend frivolously on a ballin policy with the combined income of your law practice and your super model wifeys.
Not sure what to think about what you typed.

I use State Farm because they have the lowest rates even when compared against the heavy advertisers like Progressive and Geico.

I have an affordable deductible on the collision, because it lowered the rate.

There's a zero deductible on the comprehensive because it's free and does not affect the rate.

Having a zero deductible comprehensive is not frivolous. It just makes sense, with State Farm.
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