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Old 06-03-2016, 05:27 AM   #51
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That torque curve looks wayyy better
in reference to the last dyno right? If so yes, the car feels much better.
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here are the two transmissions side by side assuming i have the spoon gearing correct

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Lol that LS 1st ans 2nd gear. Thatll be hilarious to compare that to a b16
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That would be a dream transmission set. I have a good friend of mine with a true SPOON SPORTS transmission , and was offered 3500usd for it last week. He laughed and turned it down. Keeping it for his exoskeleton car he's building.
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Yeah in that chasis with your power level, sweet sweet fun
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Old 06-04-2016, 04:28 AM   #56
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I pulled the trigger and they are intalling it this week while i am overseas. Probably $1200-1500 installed in the car. They are going to also let me know what the final drive is as i am a bit worried about top speed. That car was easily able to hit 120mph a 1/4 of the way down the straight away last time it was on the track. Maybe i can make it up in the truns with the better gears.

It also has an lsd
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Thats a steal IMO
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Yea thats a hell of a deal considering most transmission shops would charge 800-1000 just for the Labor.

My ITR trans with LSD cost me around $2k (HMO)
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Car is still in the shop getting worked on. Do you guys think i should toss a lighter flywheel in there too? Suggestions?
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Quickspool in Hondata is a **** of an option. it brings the turbo in very quickly and early in the power band. lol
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Quickspool in Hondata is a **** of an option. it brings the turbo in very quickly and early in the power band. lol
i am using a greddy boost controller.
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Car is still in the shop getting worked on. Do you guys think i should toss a lighter flywheel in there too? Suggestions?
No. Leave the flywheel alone. It is not necessary for this transmission. OEM weight is fine.
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i am using a greddy boost controller.
Which has a auto "gain" feature leaps and bounds above the Hondata version. And they had that over 15 years ago. Hondata is just now trying to catch up using a MAC solenoid to do it with.

Mjalaly is better off with what he has.

BTW. Here are your SPOON SPORTS Transmission Gear ratios official (I think you posted that in your chart already if I'm not mistaken)

1 = 2.533
2 = 1.944
3 = 1.590
4 = 1.280
5 = 1.033

Final drive is based upon the transmission it came from. SPOON SPORTS doesn't change that.
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They pooped open the tranny and it looks like everything was good except the lsd that was broken so in went a quaife one.

I also ask them to toss in some ID1000's and with the new larger intercooler, it should make a little bit more power. Hoping to hit 13's in the 1/4.
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Man that tranny feels waaaaayyy better and the car is really alive now. The revs don't drop when shifting gears and the response is a night and day difference. I can see this being a great track set up.

Not sure what the final drive is but it definitely has a much lower top speed. I am going to do a small mountain drive tomorrow to get a good feel for the transmission since I won't be going to the track for a while with broken ribs.

Next I am going to work on an eccentric throttle pulley. The 6" accelerator pedal travel is a pain to deal with.

Thanks a lot for the help guys!
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Keep us updated I was thinking you would be way under 13's with the chassis being so light
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I am sure it will do better but who knows. The atom can only get into the 11's from what i have read.

The shop was able to get another 50hp out of the engine with the ID1000 but they suggested i to switch to E85 (which i cant do with foam in my fuel cell). Not sure why, i figure the power could go way higher on 91.
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The shop was able to get another 50hp out of the engine with the ID1000 but they suggested i to switch to E85 (which i cant do with foam in my fuel cell). Not sure why, i figure the power could go way higher on 91.
E85 has much higher resistance to knock, which allows you run higher boost pressure levels and still lower cylinder temperatures. Basically, a poor man's race fuel...

That's why you were suggested to get the higher level injectors.. But because of the fact you're on a stick engine, you didn't want much more power anyway
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Yea I think the block is your limitation, im at 410 on 92 but my motor is built. I dont really see the point in E85 since the fuel is not the limiting factor in any of this
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E85 has much higher resistance to knock, which allows you run higher boost pressure levels and still lower cylinder temperatures. Basically, a poor man's race fuel...

That's why you were suggested to get the higher level injectors.. But because of the fact you're on a stick engine, you didn't want much more power anyway
Oh I am aware that E85 has a higher resistance to knock... I just cant use it with the foam.

I assume you meant stock engine not stick engine... if so my engine is completely built minus sleeves. Piston, rods, bearings, Arp everything. So there still be some more in it for sure. I see lots of builds that are much higher with less of an engine build

I also think I am only running 14 lbs of boost which is also low.

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Oh I am aware that E85 has a higher resistance to knock... I just cant use it with the foam.

I assume you meant stock engine not stick engine... if so my engine is completely built minus sleeves. Piston, rods, bearings, Arp everything. So there still be some more in it for sure. I see lots of builds that are much higher with less of an engine build

I also think I am only running 14 lbs of boost which is also low.

eagle rods? for some reason I thought you were using a stock block

500hp is about the accepted limit for that build
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eagle rods? for some reason I thought you were using a stock block

500hp is about the accepted limit for that build
I think they are eagle rods or something similar to that. I am nowhere near 500hp. 290whp right now
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I think they are eagle rods or something similar to that. I am nowhere near 500hp. 290whp right now
the turbo you have with pump gas would be your next limitation, in that case either get better fuel such as e85 or a larger turbo

shodan can chime in on the specifics but at a certain point pump gas will be the limitation on that particular turbo
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Stick=stock. Yes.
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So I am pretty sure the engine blew up... that tranny was fun for the day I guess.
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